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Old 12-29-2022, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
"What's type 4"..haha
Scary to think this is the same kid talking about upgrading to captain at Delta as as a fresh new hire.

I hope he will figure out out what type 4 is before that happens.
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Old 12-29-2022, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
Scary to think this is the same kid talking about upgrading to captain at Delta as as a fresh new hire.

I hope he will figure out out what type 4 is before that happens.
And this is the moment I took a mental snapshot of.

I don’t disparage anyone I fly with for being young and inexperienced. If they bring the right attitude I’m happy to share what I know, and what I’ve learned from mistakes. I don’t disparage them for leveraging this job for one at a legacy.

But this is the new reality. In years past if you ever did get that life changing phone call for a legacy (usually it was “a”, not multiple) then you had better have your act together. The PIC and competitive minimums were there so that it would be unusual to get candidates who were still getting to grips with things like all weather ops, energy management, basic RT, and why listening to tiktok videos at full blast during boarding may not be the most professional look.

Delta’s training may be great, but historically it’s been aligned to funnel experienced aviators into the big D world. It will be interesting to see how it adjusts to coping with a high volume flood of less and less seasoned pilots.

Meanwhile that kid probably will upgrade to 320 captain after six months, and pilots here will talk about how we aren’t Delta pilots and can’t ever expect Delta rates while the dilution of the years/hours of experience on legacy narrow body fleets continues.
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Old 12-29-2022, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
And this is the moment I took a mental snapshot of.

I don’t disparage anyone I fly with for being young and inexperienced. If they bring the right attitude I’m happy to share what I know, and what I’ve learned from mistakes. I don’t disparage them for leveraging this job for one at a legacy.

But this is the new reality. In years past if you ever did get that life changing phone call for a legacy (usually it was “a”, not multiple) then you had better have your act together. The PIC and competitive minimums were there so that it would be unusual to get candidates who were still getting to grips with things like all weather ops, energy management, basic RT, and why listening to tiktok videos at full blast during boarding may not be the most professional look.

Delta’s training may be great, but historically it’s been aligned to funnel experienced aviators into the big D world. It will be interesting to see how it adjusts to coping with a high volume flood of less and less seasoned pilots.

Meanwhile that kid probably will upgrade to 320 captain after six months, and pilots here will talk about how we aren’t Delta pilots and can’t ever expect Delta rates while the dilution of the years/hours of experience on legacy narrow body fleets continues.
well said!
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Old 01-03-2023, 07:33 PM
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What is the current training pay? I have a phone interview this week, but I want to prepare for the terribleness that is Spirit training pay if the new TA isn't approved.
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Old 01-04-2023, 10:04 AM
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Asked about this some time ago, but I heard the rumor again. Is AQP coming to initial training at Spirit anytime soon?

Thanks - and Happy New Year!
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Old 01-04-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ATISInformation
Asked about this some time ago, but I heard the rumor again. Is AQP coming to initial training at Spirit anytime soon?

Thanks - and Happy New Year!
It’s been in the works for over a year. Don’t hold your breath.
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Old 01-05-2023, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStarRita
What is the current training pay? I have a phone interview this week, but I want to prepare for the terribleness that is Spirit training pay if the new TA isn't approved.
Figure an average of $700-$800 a pay period after taxes for the first 90 days. If TA is approved, just a little bit better than that.
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Old 01-29-2023, 09:06 PM
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I’ve heard spirit is revamping its initial hire training, adding sims and not so balls to the wall on day 1 as prior? Any truth to this?
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Old 01-30-2023, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GTISPaM
I’ve heard spirit is revamping its initial hire training, adding sims and not so balls to the wall on day 1 as prior? Any truth to this?
Haven't heard this, but I know they added a 6th sim (was 5 sims).
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Old 01-30-2023, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GTISPaM
I’ve heard spirit is revamping its initial hire training, adding sims and not so balls to the wall on day 1 as prior? Any truth to this?
Wouldn't surprise me. The quality of new hires hitting the line has solidly decreased in recent months based on what I've seen as a CA.
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