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Old 11-22-2021, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondLizard
1. How long does it take to memorize them?
2. What technique did you use?
1. At least 3
2. The one that worked for me, based on what I know about how I’ve learned things since grade school
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Old 11-22-2021, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondLizard
1. How long does it take to memorize them?
2. What technique did you use?
Memory items and limitations are just straight notecard type stuff. I got those down while in the cockpit flying for my Regional. A great way to kill an hour or two in the air.

For flows it was setting up the paper tiger in my house and playing a game of Simon says the 80s electronic version. Start at step one, memorize the next step. Once have have those two down add one more. And so on until you have the complete flow. It does take time and practice.
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Old 11-22-2021, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondLizard
1. How long does it take to memorize them?
2. What technique did you use?
I wrote them down on a note pad so I can read the question without revealing the answer. Some people do flash cards but a note pad is easier to carry around.

For me, It helps to say the both the question and answer out loud. It’s not a written test, on the oral (and on subsequent PC/AQP checks) the memory items and limitations are asked verbally.

Hearing the question out loud and speaking the answer engages different parts of your brain than visually associating certain words with certain numbers, which is why I think some people get tripped up despite actually studying.

So each morning during training while getting ready and each night after I finished studying I would talk out loud the memory items and limitations until they flowed out like my home address and telephone number.
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Old 11-22-2021, 07:37 AM
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Gonna help everyone out - https://www.1stepprep.com/

and made by a spirit guy none the less - this is money better spent then that a320 app
This 10000% for the knowledge validation.
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Old 11-22-2021, 07:38 AM
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Don’t let some of these guys stress you out. It’s best to have the flows (just know where your hands go), limitations, and memory items down when you show up. If you don’t have it perfect you won’t be sent home. If you can know more like knowing what to do once your hands reach each stop in the flow then that’s even better. Just do the best you can. There isn’t time to teach the actual flows so not knowing them ahead will add one more thing to your plate. Don’t sweat it all. The fact you are even asking means you’ll probably be fine.
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Don’t let some of these guys stress you out. It’s best to have the flows (just know where your hands go), limitations, and memory items down when you show up. If you don’t have it perfect you won’t be sent home. If you can know more like knowing what to do once your hands reach each stop in the flow then that’s even better. Just do the best you can. There isn’t time to teach the actual flows so not knowing them ahead will add one more thing to your plate. Don’t sweat it all. The fact you are even asking means you’ll probably be fine.
This.

Flows, limitations and memory items. The only “test” you will have on them are three multiple choice tests that are graded to 100% and filed away.

You will have time to learn the more in depth stuff so don’t feel like you have to show up on day one ready to pass the oral.

Also, 10000% agree with one step prep. They make it easy.
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
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Flows, limitations and memory items. The only “test” you will have on them are three multiple choice tests that are graded to 100% and filed away.
That’s a bit disingenuous. Literally the first questions you will be asked on the oral is every single memory item and limitation. It’s common knowledge that those who flub on these make up most of the small percentage of people who don’t pass the first time.
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
That’s a bit disingenuous. Literally the first questions you will be asked on the oral is every single memory item and limitation. It’s common knowledge that those who flub on these make up most of the small percentage of people who don’t pass the first time.
not disingenuous at all. He’s exactly right. You’ll get a few written tests in class on those items exactly and it’s corrected to 100.

no where did he say anything about the oral or check ride. You made that jump.
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
That’s a bit disingenuous. Literally the first questions you will be asked on the oral is every single memory item and limitation. It’s common knowledge that those who flub on these make up most of the small percentage of people who don’t pass the first time.
Isn’t this every oral at every airline? ( not being a smart a** just wondering if it’s not like that someplaces)
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Old 11-26-2021, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
Gonna help everyone out - https://www.1stepprep.com/

and made by a spirit guy none the less - this is money better spent then that a320 app
Joe is the man! Great resource
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