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10-18-2020, 12:20 PM
#181
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If a city pair had five flights a day and now it has three and the other two flights are represented by airplanes parked and sitting idle would it be profitable? My guess is not even with those three flights full. Those three full flights have depressed pricing and your capacity is down to 60% on this city pair from pre-Covid which would be incredibly optimistic these days. This is what I see on our very best routes. Factor in the city pairs that aren’t as good across the airline and I don’t see any way we could be profitable in the 3rd quarter.
This also feels a bit like June where traffic was way up and then the surge in cases hit the news and bookings took a nose dive. We will have to wait a couple weeks to see how today’s scary Covid news affects bookings. I don’t think it’s going to be good.
This also feels a bit like June where traffic was way up and then the surge in cases hit the news and bookings took a nose dive. We will have to wait a couple weeks to see how today’s scary Covid news affects bookings. I don’t think it’s going to be good.
10-18-2020, 12:33 PM
#182
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News of rising cases started well over a month ago. People don’t care anymore and it’s showing.
10-18-2020, 01:54 PM
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Pretty sure the majority if not all the planes are that parked currently are 319’s. Which are paid for. So only cost to park them is whatever mx needs to still be done and parking fees. I worked 8 of the last 9 days and never saw a load below 130pax and average was probably about 170.
10-18-2020, 03:38 PM
#184
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Pretty sure the majority if not all the planes are that parked currently are 319’s. Which are paid for. So only cost to park them is whatever mx needs to still be done and parking fees. I worked 8 of the last 9 days and never saw a load below 130pax and average was probably about 170.
10-18-2020, 05:57 PM
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10-19-2020, 07:03 AM
#188
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A bit more than human nature, but yes, I’m sure human nature and lockdown/quarantine/mask/Covid fatigue is playing into it.
But there is more to it:
This video shot in Italy pretty much explains why the current surge is far different (far more benign) than the first surge that severely crippled Italy. It basically surmises that due to the widespread availability of testing now vs. the spring, the case count is much higher though many of those positive cases are in people with very mild symptoms or are asymptomatic.
During the first wave, there were only enough test kits to test the very sick. So therefore, in the early days of Covid, a high amount of cases meant a high amount of icu patients and deaths. With this surge, that is no longer the case.
I think the same holds true here. In the first days of the pandemic, there was no chance of getting a test unless you were violently ill. Now there are 3 testing facilities within 3 miles of my house where I can have results within 24 hours.
The video is from CNN, so before anyone gets triggered, I guarantee that it’s not agenda based, liberal, “fake news”, whatever you want call it. Just a good 2 minute watch.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...tl-ldn-vpx.cnn
But there is more to it:
This video shot in Italy pretty much explains why the current surge is far different (far more benign) than the first surge that severely crippled Italy. It basically surmises that due to the widespread availability of testing now vs. the spring, the case count is much higher though many of those positive cases are in people with very mild symptoms or are asymptomatic.
During the first wave, there were only enough test kits to test the very sick. So therefore, in the early days of Covid, a high amount of cases meant a high amount of icu patients and deaths. With this surge, that is no longer the case.
I think the same holds true here. In the first days of the pandemic, there was no chance of getting a test unless you were violently ill. Now there are 3 testing facilities within 3 miles of my house where I can have results within 24 hours.
The video is from CNN, so before anyone gets triggered, I guarantee that it’s not agenda based, liberal, “fake news”, whatever you want call it. Just a good 2 minute watch.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...tl-ldn-vpx.cnn
Last edited by 319wisperer; 10-19-2020 at 07:21 AM.
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