Take the vil/eil
08-15-2020, 12:45 AM
#21
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Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 468
I think the union did an admirable job. I have some friends at delta that really wish they had this. Many many guys will be all over the 3 month
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
08-15-2020, 03:31 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: A320/CA
Posts: 165
Cruising over to your board from the other ULCC. Congrats to you and your MEC for hammering out what looks like a pretty good deal. I hope many pilots are happy, the Company gets their savings, and it all works out where there are no furloughs. Looks like a win-win from here.
08-15-2020, 03:58 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 307
I think the union did an admirable job. I have some friends at delta that really wish they had this. Many many guys will be all over the 3 month
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
08-15-2020, 05:30 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 612
I think the union did an admirable job. I have some friends at delta that really wish they had this. Many many guys will be all over the 3 month
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
08-15-2020, 06:09 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
I think the union did an admirable job. I have some friends at delta that really wish they had this. Many many guys will be all over the 3 month
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
leave. That will ensure that all the holidays will be off. I can only see senior captains or guys with spouses with good income taking the 6 months but not many.
and I doubt many at all will take the 8 months. 4 days is a short time to decide to take off 8 months and figure out whah to do in that time . Furloughs will
still happen but If this keeps a few more guys on property I think it’s a win/win. I know my friends in corporate America are shocked we get something like this . It’s a good deal .
08-15-2020, 06:27 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,778
Many have their lifestyle set up to live on much less than guarantee. Many don’t too. With school going full virtual a lot of places being off of work may be a necessity. Start a business, rent an RV and see all the national parks. Move to Costa Rica for 8 mo. It’s a great opportunity for many.
Congrats to your union for putting this together! The guys that do it will love it, and obviously the fewer that get furloughed as a result the better.
08-15-2020, 07:11 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 63
I think you’ll see a lot of guys take the 8 month. I’m still on first year pay and I’m bidding the 8 month. Even when it switches to second year pay, 50 hours is more than min guarantee on first year pay, so I get a pay raise and get 8 months off??? Heck yes. Sign me up. And if I don’t take the EIL, I stand a chance of losing my base and commuting to reserve. I’d rather take the EIL.
The last question in the Q/A the union put out concerns me about junior guys still getting furloughed even though bidding an EIL.
Q: What happens to a pilot on an EIL if they are subsequently furloughed?
A: Active pilots on an EIL that are furloughed during the EIL period will immediately move from EIL to furloughed status on the effective date of the furlough in accordance with Section 23 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
08-15-2020, 07:24 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 130
The last question in the Q/A the union put out concerns me about junior guys still getting furloughed even though bidding an EIL.
Q: What happens to a pilot on an EIL if they are subsequently furloughed?
A: Active pilots on an EIL that are furloughed during the EIL period will immediately move from EIL to furloughed status on the effective date of the furlough in accordance with Section 23 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Q: What happens to a pilot on an EIL if they are subsequently furloughed?
A: Active pilots on an EIL that are furloughed during the EIL period will immediately move from EIL to furloughed status on the effective date of the furlough in accordance with Section 23 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
So yes, if a junior pilot is awarded an EIL they are still subject to furlough.
Participation by senior pilots in the EIL program will be encouraged by the union and management during the town hall meeting on Monday.
08-15-2020, 08:23 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 307
The last question in the Q/A the union put out concerns me about junior guys still getting furloughed even though bidding an EIL.
Q: What happens to a pilot on an EIL if they are subsequently furloughed?
A: Active pilots on an EIL that are furloughed during the EIL period will immediately move from EIL to furloughed status on the effective date of the furlough in accordance with Section 23 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Q: What happens to a pilot on an EIL if they are subsequently furloughed?
A: Active pilots on an EIL that are furloughed during the EIL period will immediately move from EIL to furloughed status on the effective date of the furlough in accordance with Section 23 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
