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Old 09-12-2022, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GWY320
The grid is contractually compliant at the start of Initial Open Time, but becomes almost exclusively red at the close. Only the top 10 percent are able to take advantage of the QOL this hard fought provision provides.

This is due to low FO staffing, and because of this, the grid starts with a net reserves of only 0 or 1 for many of the days. There are too many open duty periods compared to the number of available pilots.

By the time the first 5 pilots start adjusting their schedule (dropping most trips so they can become available for premium trips) the grid is almost completely red.
but spirit has the best quality of life! Stay at mesa
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Old 09-12-2022, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
but spirit has the best quality of life! Stay at mesa
I turned down a Spirit interview because of this and the fact that I’ll be making over 12 year Spirit FO pay as a CA at Envoy, or the same as a 9 year Spirit FO as a CA at Mesa. I literally can’t afford to be a Spirit FO at this point. I’d be taking a huge pay cut.

No more dropping trips at Spirit when they’re short staffed and they won’t be properly staffed until they increase pay.
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Old 09-12-2022, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
I turned down a Spirit interview because of this and the fact that I’ll be making over 12 year Spirit FO pay as a CA at Envoy, or the same as a 9 year Spirit FO as a CA at Mesa. I literally can’t afford to be a Spirit FO at this point. I’d be taking a huge pay cut.

No more dropping trips at Spirit when they’re short staffed and they won’t be properly staffed until they increase pay.
Good points.

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Old 09-12-2022, 07:44 PM
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What’s the update with DTW? I’m DTW based at my regional, dying to leave.

1. How bad was the displacement and is there any hope for a new hire going there within the next 6 months?

2. What are lines looking like there and elsewhere as far as average days off and how soon you can hold one?
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Old 09-12-2022, 08:26 PM
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Out of curiosity, what percent of pilots are generally reserves on the FO side?
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Guac
What’s the update with DTW? I’m DTW based at my regional, dying to leave.

1. How bad was the displacement and is there any hope for a new hire going there within the next 6 months?

2. What are lines looking like there and elsewhere as far as average days off and how soon you can hold one?
any base that has/is being reduced newhires should not expect to hold for a very long time. those displaced will be trying to get back too
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
any base that has/is being reduced newhires should not expect to hold for a very long time. those displaced will be trying to get back too
not entirely true with the amount of FO attrition. With the way things are going in Dfw I bet there will be 5 or less FO displacements by November.
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Old 09-13-2022, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
not entirely true with the amount of FO attrition. With the way things are going in Dfw I bet there will be 5 or less FO displacements by November.
but those 5 displacements will trying to get back too......
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Old 09-13-2022, 07:12 AM
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Long term, a lot of these positions will be backfilled, but this is assuming we get adequately staffed.


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