JulesWinfield

I prefer chemical egg solution and microwaved sausage.

GrumpyCaptain

Oh I’m massively overweight. It’s the powdered eggs and the strange textured sausage. Washed down with a gallon of fake vanilla creamer I don’t even bother adding the luke warm coffee.

fumeevented

1. the van ride to/from long beach can be over an hour in traffic.
2. I dont want to spend my $57/hr on a $30 taco.
3. I just spent 5 hours hearing about your boat, im good for the rest of the day.
4. Its hard not to max out the 5mbps wifi.

Halon1211

used to have long BOG and SJO overnights…those were fun…not sure if they still have those or not…kinda out of the loop.

you can always have fun going down south…

king10pin02

BOGs are long gone. LIM still around

Cyio

If I am not mistaken, LIM is our only international overnight right now other than SJO.

Fah2

Limas are for pilots not senior enough for Guayaquil overnights

Cfii123

Hey guys, any input is greatly appreciated. I’m Florida based so Frontier and Spirit are my top choices. Tampa would be great cause of family but I don't mind Orlando either. Everywhere I look, Spirit pilots just love their lives which is why I am here. The schedule flexibility is huge for me and so is turns/being home most nights.

1. How has your QOL been at spirit, do you enjoy working there?

2. Do you have any insight on the pros/cons of working for spirit over frontier?

3. How do you believe the merger will impact you?

4. If given the option now which ULCC would you choose?

5. Is Spirit a place you would feel comfortable retiring at or legacy is still the way to go?

6. I’m aiming for MCO, is that something I could get out of training?

7. Starting at a regional here soon. How many hours is competitive these days for spirit? I did the traditional 1500 CFI gig so have 0 turbine time atm. I plan on attending as many MTC events as possible after my checkride.

8. And what’s the % of day trips atm? That’s big for me as far as QOL goes.

9. Is frontier better for day trips out of TPA or spirit out of MCO?

Fah2

I get your questions, but a comparison between Spirit and Frontier is almost moot at this point. After the merger we will be JetBlue and they will have a lot of decisions to make about the type and destination of flying out of our large Florida bases.

MCO and FLL are both large Spirit bases, with MCO being slightly more senior. But again, none of that matters until we know how large each base will be post merger. Both bases are very senior at JetBlue.

Prior to all this merger stuff, Spirit or Frontier were both no-brainers for someone looking for a long term Florida base. But in your case, let’s say best case scenario you start a regional in the next couple months, finish training, and get a few months/couple hundred hours and get lucky with a MTC for an interview. We are talking mid next year earliest, then a couple months for a class date. So maybe July-August start date. Is it possible you will get MCO out of training? Sure. But that’s most likely a year from merger and at that point both pilot groups will get shuffled together and every pilot senior to you (roughly 8000) will get a crack at pushing you out of MCO.

There’s really no telling how many pilots or how senior Orlando or Lauderdale will be for a future new hire to use basing as a career decision maker.

On the other hand the merger could fall through and you are back to which ULCC to work for. Ain’t this career grand?

banned

1. Holding a line at Spirit offers a great lifestyle. Most people you fly with are cool. How long to hold a line is the million dollar question. FOs are jumping ship very quickly at the moment, so the movement up the list can kind of stagnate.

3. No one will have a proper answer to this.

5. I'm holding a line (FO) at Spirit and going to a legacy. Hopefully it will be a good decision. I'm definitely not super stoked about leaving such a cushy job but I'm hoping future me will be better off. I never had any intention of leaving Spirit nor had any apps out until they announced they were shrinking ORD and I wouldn't hold CA there for a long time. Also the apathy around the pay situation is pretty disheartening.

6. Yes or you'd commute for a month or 2 I'd imagine.

7. Get your ATP and type rating from the regional and you'll be immediately competitive for Spirit.

8. Don't worry about percentage of day trips, you likely won't be consistently flying them until you're well off reserve and into a line, at which point any data presented here will be different.

The schedule dropping / swapping flexibility is unparalleled industry wide. There are still small annoyances with it like if your trip duties off at 0001 on a red day then you can't drop it.