gflann

Seniority doesnt mean anything when it’s violated during the award process and you get your least preferred RAP while a bunch of junior guys get the one(s) you wanted instead.

flyingpuma1

This is why I won’t bid down to reserve, did it once a few years ago to make sure I had a holiday off I broke min guarantee while the jr guys in the same day didn’t work much, Called scheduling on it and was told the ever popular “fly now grieve later.” And that was the last time I bid reserve.


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NK Bumble Bee

So, what was the outcome of your grievance?

dualinput

I don’t believe this at all. I’ve been assigned out of order a bunch of times. Honestly don’t think it’s out of malice but out of lack of training for the schedulers and not having dedicated pilot schedulers. However, after accepting the assignment and researching the proper order for that particular trip and seeing I was in fact assigned out of order, I call back and politely bring it do their attention. Once they told me the guy ahead of me had called in sick and flica had not updated. Another time they told me they had just called the guy in front of me for another assignment. This is all verifiable.

Each and every other time after politely alerting them to the mistake they have taken me off the trip and placed back on call. Appropriate pilot was then called for the trip. I have never once been told fly now grieve later in my entire time at spirit.

dualinput

You need to get a better handle on the assignment methodology in the CBA I suggest. While it’s not perfect it’s pretty easy to verify if trips are assigned correctly. Predictably of if you will get used is another issue. That’s a factor of how early open trips appear in open time and the type of trips they are, and how many pilots are ahead of you that might match those said trips. I can’t sit at home and predict if some piecemealed trip will be built at the last minute to take advantage of reserve pilots they might have or if someone is going to call in sick right before show time or in the middle of a trip. That stuff will never be predictable siting at home on the couch. You can however generally predict which RAPs and which days of the week get used the most in your base and seat using historical trends and bid approximately.

CincoDeMayo

Same as my experiences too. Only once in my entire time here have I ever gotten any attitude from scheduling, for any reason. In fact im amazed how professional they are, knowing the attitude they must see from the Pilot/FA groups that dont know the contract yet want to argue about it.

Cyio

OK fair enough, perhaps I should spend more time looking at it. This most likely is just a reserve sucks period kind of thing as opposed to the system itself. I am used to it being done solely by seniority, which is perhaps why it seems strange to me how we do it. Anyway, like I said, it was just one new guys opinion, that can change over time.
I will say, they CS team has always been friendly and respectful, a very nice change of pace from I was used to.

sioux8ships

Agreed, schedulers here have always been great, regardless of knowledge or lack there of with our CBA. Remember the days of Gabe???

cantflylist

I’ve been on reserve since Hire date - 20 months. Live in base. 300 hours total block. Awesome sitting reserve at home. I can predict fairly accurately exactly which trip I am going to be assigned. Know the CBA

CincoDeMayo

And that’s the only person I’ve had issue with, as did many of us.