Search

Notices

Life at Spirit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-09-2021, 07:04 AM
  #361  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 220
Default

Originally Posted by Airlinepilot421
Is the company still planning on hiring 900 for 2022? Realistically, if one were to be hired today could they expect to upgrade within 5 years, or is that only if the company grows beyond the 300 TT airplane count? Has there be any internal talk on how contract negotiations may go once it begins to open up?
Yes. Who knows. No, that will be kept quiet.
SlimBob is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 07:21 AM
  #362  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 36
Default

Originally Posted by dualinput
Long call or R10 SUN-Wed would get almost all the required time off for the month
Don’t forget that seniority is “considered” when awarding RAP. Worst part of our contract.
gflann is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 09:32 AM
  #363  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JulesWinfield's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,361
Default

Originally Posted by Airlinepilot421
Is the company still planning on hiring 900 for 2022? Realistically, if one were to be hired today could they expect to upgrade within 5 years, or is that only if the company grows beyond the 300 TT airplane count? Has there be any internal talk on how contract negotiations may go once it begins to open up?
Last I heard, it was 70+ a month in January. Our junior upgrade was something like 3 years 8 months with covid included, but no one can tell you what your upgrade will be.
JulesWinfield is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 09:34 AM
  #364  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
Default

Originally Posted by gflann
Don’t forget that seniority is “considered” when awarding RAP. Worst part of our contract.
Yes but if you stay senior on reserve instead of bidding up to a line you will get the days you want and there is reasonable expectation you will get the RAP you want unless you get unstacked which has only happened to me once since we went to PBS
dualinput is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 10:56 AM
  #365  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,279
Default

Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Last I heard, it was 70+ a month in January. Our junior upgrade was something like 3 years 8 months with covid included, but no one can tell you what your upgrade will be.
yeah Covid has that pretty skewed. No hiring for a year means that one upgrade class will have a may 2020 hire in it as well as a March 2021 hire…. So upgrade times will “shrink” on paper
CLE to IAH is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 11:42 AM
  #366  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 36
Default

Originally Posted by dualinput
Yes but if you stay senior on reserve instead of bidding up to a line you will get the days you want and there is reasonable expectation you will get the RAP you want unless you get unstacked which has only happened to me once since we went to PBS
I’m the third most senior on short call and got the RAP I wanted the least. And only one of the two above me got a RAP I wanted. We have a system that violates seniority.
gflann is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 11:54 AM
  #367  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Nov 2021
Position: A320/FO
Posts: 35
Default

Originally Posted by gflann
I’m the third most senior on short call and got the RAP I wanted the least. And only one of the two above me got a RAP I wanted. We have a system that violates seniority.
But did you get The days off you wanted?
JP1534 is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 01:39 PM
  #368  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,788
Default

Originally Posted by gflann
I’m the third most senior on short call and got the RAP I wanted the least. And only one of the two above me got a RAP I wanted. We have a system that violates seniority.
The system will always try and get the days off you requested first, then takes into consideration what RAP preferences you wanted.
Cyio is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 01:50 PM
  #369  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JulesWinfield's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,361
Default

Originally Posted by Cyio
The system will always try and get the days off you requested first, then takes into consideration what RAP preferences you wanted.
Yeah, it’s a bad system.
JulesWinfield is offline  
Old 12-09-2021, 02:17 PM
  #370  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 36
Default

Lol everyone telling me how it works...I know that! I’m pointing out it’s flawed because it violates seniority.
gflann is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Chimpy
Spirit
4
05-10-2017 08:52 AM
nichale
Spirit
50
03-22-2017 11:15 AM
gunner
Major
107
05-04-2012 02:13 PM
downinthegroove
Regional
2
06-03-2008 05:55 PM
vagabond
Money Talk
1
05-15-2008 07:57 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices