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Old 12-08-2021, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by climbrate
Understood, thanks for the responses guys, y’all are being very helpful.

So that was my next question, what if I just bid to be based at the most junior base, and then just drop to 0 and pick up some trips that don’t fall on those days/times?
The concept of junior base at Spirit is probably different Than what you are imagining. FLL is most junior, and also the biggest. Of the 300+ FOs there, I would estimate the top 75 could upgrade tomorrow if they chose, and next 50 are 3-4 years with the company. Just because you go to a junior base doesn’t mean you go to the top of the heap.

DFW is on average more senior than FLL, but that doesn’t mean just because you can hold a line sooner in FLL that you will be the first pig at the trough when it comes to bids and drops. You are as likely to get stuck with holidays, Super Bowl, or just weekends in general there as a junior line holder.
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Old 12-08-2021, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by climbrate
Wow, thank you so much for your response, it makes a world of difference and makes me feel more confident about my decision!! This being my first 121, I was not sure what to expect for scheduling and bidding and being able to mange my own schedule (coming from corporate). For personal reasons, I normally have to be home Thursday evenings and Sunday mornings, so having heard about schedule flexibility, immediately caught my attention about NK, but just wanted to have an insight about what I can really expect once I’m able to hold a line. So basically, I really don’t mind what kind of trip pairings I get, or start/end times, as long as I have those days and times at home.

There’s 0 flexibility as a reserve, so keep that in mind. You’ll like it here.
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Old 12-08-2021, 09:53 AM
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Also note that if you bid the junior base and another economic shutdown you’ll be stuck there on reserve really wishing you were stuck on reserve in base.. I was commuting 6 years and just finally living where I work has been a blessing. I spent 7 nights out of my own bed in November.
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Old 12-08-2021, 11:14 AM
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Old 12-08-2021, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
There’s 0 flexibility as a reserve, so keep that in mind. You’ll like it here.
However if you live in DFW if that’s the base you want then just get senior on reserve so you can get the days off you want and stay on reserve instead of bidding some crappy line for years.
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Old 12-08-2021, 07:01 PM
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However if you live in DFW if that’s the base you want then just get senior on reserve so you can get the days off you want and stay on reserve instead of bidding some crappy line for years.
Nope - wont work either as the guy said he needed Thursday and Sunday off. Min days of reserve blocks are 4. There is no scenario on reserve where he gets both these days off with our current min block of 4 regardless of what he waves for the whole month. One week yes - the rest of the month would be one or the other either Thursday or Sunday.
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Old 12-08-2021, 07:15 PM
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To get Thursday evenings and Sunday mornings off

you could bid to start late on Sunday. You’d finish your 4 day trip on Wednesday night late.

but your chances of getting red eyes are higher with that preference.

but relying on dropping to be able to pick up from open time in Dfw is not reliable.

usually there isn’t the open time that fits what you’ll need. Most open time in Dfw will be working over the weekends and there is competition from the line holders at other bases who live in Dfw who also pick the Dfw open time.
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
Nope - wont work either as the guy said he needed Thursday and Sunday off. Min days of reserve blocks are 4. There is no scenario on reserve where he gets both these days off with our current min block of 4 regardless of what he waves for the whole month. One week yes - the rest of the month would be one or the other either Thursday or Sunday.
Long call or R10 SUN-Wed would get almost all the required time off for the month
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Old 12-09-2021, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by climbrate
Yes, I do have to be home those days/times.
I know it would be hard to predict, but any idea of how long it would take to have enough seniority to be able
to make that work?
And yes, DFW would be my preferred base.
That schedule will be hard (if not impossible) to swing regardless of which airline you end up at, especially for a junior pilot. The schedule “cadence” here will benefit you for some of those days per month if you work your bid correctly, but certainly not all of them…
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Old 12-09-2021, 06:25 AM
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Is the company still planning on hiring 900 for 2022? Realistically, if one were to be hired today could they expect to upgrade within 5 years, or is that only if the company grows beyond the 300 TT airplane count? Has there be any internal talk on how contract negotiations may go once it begins to open up?
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