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Old 12-27-2019, 06:11 PM
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I could have held Dec upgrade. Would have been 2 years 7 months. Bypassed till Jan.
Congratulations. You can thank the lack of QOL on reserve for that.
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Congratulations. You can thank the lack of QOL on reserve for that.
QOL ain’t bad If you live in base.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
QOL ain’t bad If you live in base.
And "ain't bad" is not as good as "great". When I got hired I sat reserve for 2 months, when I upgraded I didn't sit reserve. That was because the QOL on reserve. Now upgrade has gone from 55% RS to 67% RS. BIG difference.
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Old 12-28-2019, 12:27 AM
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Would someone mind posting the junior CA DOH for DTW, ORD and DFW? Thanks.
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:55 AM
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As stated above you're looking at 2.5 to 3 years all bases. ORD seems to be more junior. Not a lot of movement in either DTW or DFW on the Captain side. I'm way more senior in ORD. DTW is senior due to company history, DFW due to where guys were hired and base expansion that never happened. DFW just hasn't grown like we hoped. AA has blocked us at DFW and ORD on the gate side of business. We'll just grown at BWI and MCO. BWI base is coming, We have too many flights in/out and overnighting crews. It's just a matter of time. BWI has plenty of cheap gate space and great turn times. Last Captain upgrade numbers spread evenly to all bases. That was a surprise when you consider where people have been sent over the last 6 months, mainly to MCO.
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Old 12-28-2019, 05:36 AM
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As stated above you're looking at 2.5 to 3 years all bases. ORD seems to be more junior. Not a lot of movement in either DTW or DFW on the Captain side. I'm way more senior in ORD. DTW is senior due to company history, DFW due to where guys were hired and base expansion that never happened. DFW just hasn't grown like we hoped. AA has blocked us at DFW and ORD on the gate side of business. We'll just grown at BWI and MCO. BWI base is coming, We have too many flights in/out and overnighting crews. It's just a matter of time. BWI has plenty of cheap gate space and great turn times. Last Captain upgrade numbers spread evenly to all bases. That was a surprise when you consider where people have been sent over the last 6 months, mainly to MCO.
It’s starting to look like one could be a line holder in MCO or FLL before even being able to hold LAS or DFW at the moment.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
And "ain't bad" is not as good as "great". When I got hired I sat reserve for 2 months, when I upgraded I didn't sit reserve. That was because the QOL on reserve. Now upgrade has gone from 55% RS to 67% RS. BIG difference.
Have a friend in Dallas that went 33 straight days without an overnight. That’s pretty good QOL in my book if you live in base. People shouldn’t have abused the old reserve system and maybe we’d still have some of the scheduling flexibility on reserve. No shock the company axed dropping reserve days with what was going on.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
Have a friend in Dallas that went 33 straight days without an overnight. That’s pretty good QOL in my book if you live in base. People shouldn’t have abused the old reserve system and maybe we’d still have some of the scheduling flexibility on reserve. No shock the company axed dropping reserve days with what was going on.


Then your friend is lucky, any time I’ve sat reserve I’ve ended up with 90 hours for the month. The company didn’t axe dropping reserve days, we (as a pilot group) voluntarily gave those up in the new contract.


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Then your friend is lucky, any time I’ve sat reserve I’ve ended up with 90 hours for the month. The company didn’t axe dropping reserve days, we (as a pilot group) voluntarily gave those up in the new contract.


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From what I’ve heard guys said a new contract was never coming without giving up that since reserves were pretty much useless to the company due to people checker boarding to not work.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:43 AM
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I was trying to keep the politics out of it but anyway, so here is my 2c.
There’s no way the company was going to let us continue checkerboard. What I heard (hearsay alert) is management was so upset about how we (ab-)used the rules they agreed to, they were going to make sure abuse was impossible. I don’t think the NC gave up voluntarily. 75% of us, including me, voted yes, because we thought it was good/good enough/the best we can get with this management & NC & NMB/needed money for a boat.

The reserve rules were definitely gutted to a far bigger extent than required for coverage protection. Being able to drop days from the outside in provided the grid is (very) green would save the company money without danger of scheduling disruption, but is no longer allowed so was done IMHO for purely punitive purposes.

This might not be the only reason, but upgrade has gone from 54% RS before contract to 63% RS (from latest what-if). Could be the higher pay rates or PBS, but I think lots of people bypass because reserve QOL.
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