Anyone seen this? ALPA comparison
02-11-2018, 04:23 PM
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02-12-2018, 09:33 AM
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Even if the numbers are way off as far as the cost savings to the company, it's still way less than our gain.
Ex... Rough numbers
12M year savings plus reduction of 200 pilots (alpa estimate) avg compensation top and bottom of the pay scale would be around 166/hr... Figure it out at 72 hours and you have 28.6M year...
Add them up and you get 40.6M post year cost savings to the company
5 year total savings ~ 203M
Gains in ta1 ~ 920M
Even if numbers are off substantially, there is no way its cost neutral.
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Ex... Rough numbers
12M year savings plus reduction of 200 pilots (alpa estimate) avg compensation top and bottom of the pay scale would be around 166/hr... Figure it out at 72 hours and you have 28.6M year...
Add them up and you get 40.6M post year cost savings to the company
5 year total savings ~ 203M
Gains in ta1 ~ 920M
Even if numbers are off substantially, there is no way its cost neutral.
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02-12-2018, 09:35 AM
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Even if the numbers are way off as far as the cost savings to the company, it's still way less than our gain.
Ex... Rough numbers
12M year savings plus reduction of 200 pilots (alpa estimate) avg compensation top and bottom of the pay scale would be around 166/hr... Figure it out at 72 hours and you have 28.6M year...
Add them up and you get 40.6M post year cost savings to the company
5 year total savings ~ 203M
Gains in ta1 ~ 920M
Even if numbers are off substantially, there is no way its cost neutral.
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Ex... Rough numbers
12M year savings plus reduction of 200 pilots (alpa estimate) avg compensation top and bottom of the pay scale would be around 166/hr... Figure it out at 72 hours and you have 28.6M year...
Add them up and you get 40.6M post year cost savings to the company
5 year total savings ~ 203M
Gains in ta1 ~ 920M
Even if numbers are off substantially, there is no way its cost neutral.
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Get out of here with that logical thinking!
02-12-2018, 09:40 AM
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Watch the TA Q &A video and watch the committee handle the question about how cost neutral this contract is. It is one of the first questions. That notion is shot down very clearly by several people. I believe the number was for every $1 gained by the company there was $14 gained in the TA. 14 to 1. Not even in the neighborhood of cost neutral
02-12-2018, 07:14 PM
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You do realize that this is a comparison of our current contract, not the TA we are voting on?
02-12-2018, 07:29 PM
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Watch the TA Q &A video and watch the committee handle the question about how cost neutral this contract is. It is one of the first questions. That notion is shot down very clearly by several people. I believe the number was for every $1 gained by the company there was $14 gained in the TA. 14 to 1. Not even in the neighborhood of cost neutral
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02-12-2018, 07:52 PM
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funny, i hear the work rule adjustments are yet to be determined how much it will save them. so 14 to 1 is an 'estimate'-----we've been beat up screwed so many times, even sued, we're now supposed to trust that they won't take complete advantage of us with these massive changes in scheduling?
02-12-2018, 07:57 PM
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Well yeah. Any rational person realizes there is a little give or take in there. So 12-16 to 1? It could go up or down but not much. They have a good estimate based on other companies experiences. Look, change is not easy. Some big changes are happening so I understand the skepticism. How do you think you will be taken advantage of?
02-12-2018, 08:00 PM
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