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Old 02-06-2018, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ForTheWin
Yep, that's why I signed up as well. Been lurking for a long time; but the massive ignorance being displayed is just too much to sit idly by and listen to the tin foil hat club.
I don’t doubt many of these new guys are NK pilots. They saw too many vocal no votes on here and are worried they’re going to get voted out of this pay raise next month.
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:18 AM
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The company wants a contract. They do not need it badly and they are not desperate but it does affect pilot recruitment and aircraft acquisition. If they can get us to sign the existing TA they get all that and more.

The truth is that most people are voting no due to sections 1 and 25. Either the company is really planning to screw us over and needs these concessions or they are considered nice to haves and they are more focused on other stuff.

If we vote this thing down the issues in sections 1 and 25 should be a quick fix and we have a new TA in 90 days. If the company refuses to modify the language then we know that they intend to screw us and signing the existing TA would be stupid. Either way voting no reveals the truth.
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Strike2
The company wants a contract. They do not need it badly and they are not desperate but it does affect pilot recruitment and aircraft acquisition. If they can get us to sign the existing TA they get all that and more.

The truth is that most people are voting no due to sections 1 and 25. Either the company is really planning to screw us over and needs these concessions or they are considered nice to haves and they are more focused on other stuff.

If we vote this thing down the issues in sections 1 and 25 should be a quick fix and we have a new TA in 90 days. If the company refuses to modify the language then we know that they intend to screw us and signing the existing TA would be stupid. Either way voting no reveals the truth.
OMG what planet are you living on. If this thing fails which I highly doubt it will fail by such a small margin that it will absolutely do nothing for us
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Strike2

If we vote this thing down the issues in sections 1 and 25 should be a quick fix and we have a new TA in 90 days.
How much did you pay for your crystal ball? This is a BIG unknown
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:43 AM
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How much did you pay for your crystal ball? This is a BIG unknown




NOTHING is quick at this company....


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Old 02-06-2018, 07:44 AM
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NOTHING is quick at this company....


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Except for them violating the contract lol
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:47 AM
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Except for them violating the contract lol


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Old 02-06-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE
Except for them violating the contract lol
At least with the new contract there are quite a few areas they’ll have to go further on to get into violation territory.
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Old 02-06-2018, 08:42 AM
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At least with the new contract there are quite a few areas they’ll have to go further on to get into violation territory.
Not with language like "betond the companies control and to the best of thier ability" This TA has more holes than swiss cheese.
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Old 02-06-2018, 09:25 AM
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If we vote this thing down the issues in sections 1 and 25 should be a quick fix and we have a new TA in 90 days.
What are you smoking and can I have some?
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