TrojanCMH

Scope does worry me and it's certainly a part of my thought process but honestly if the company had short term intentions of screwing us with it they wouldn't have given it up. Just my opinion but it is worrisome.

NKSpilot

As far as the original subject of this thread...

Do any of you ever ask your wife what she wants for dinner and all she can tell you is what she knows she doesn’t want for dinner?

AirbusA321Pilot

Nailed it!! Big time!!

GrumpyCaptain

The next aircraft order has already happened. SkyWest will be flying 100 Mitsubishi MRJ painted yellow.

Instead of having 2,000 more pilots on our seniority list they will be elsewhere.

Read the scope clause guys, we are outsourcing our jobs!

cf105

In every TA vote, I always enjoy observing the condescending attitude of the No votes, their true feel to educate others because they do know it all, and know what companies really want to do and know what the future will be if a TA is voted or voted down. All airlines, same attitude, amazing. I really enjoy human nature and its extremist activism.

FLBusDrvr

Copied from the TA Q&A

No other carrier, regional, or otherwise can do Spirit’s flying, except if Spirit contracts out to have it performed. Such contracting would be subject to the time limits and circumstances in Section 1.B.2. Spirit could, perhaps, code share with a regional carrier using the MRJ. However, in a typical code share agreement the carrier doing the flying keeps 99% of the revenue and, as with contracting out, there is no reason for Spirit to give up revenue from a profitable route just to have a regional carrier perform it using equipment with less seating capacity. Fee for service arrangements would be even more impractical because Spirit would not only be losing much of the revenue from the flying, they would be paying to have another carrier do flying Spirit that could do profitably, or for passenger feed – something Spirit has never done and which would make no sense.

Finally, Spirit could acquire a regional carrier that used Mitsubishi aircraft. However, the Mitsubishi (at 88,000 pounds) is above the weight limits for regional aircraft as defined in Section 1.BL of the TA and, therefore, any growth in flying performed by a carrier using the Mitsubishi would have to be accompanied by comparable growth in Spirit flying.

Conquistador27

Actually kinda reminds me of another vote a little over a year ago.

Alphafloor

Wow,.. another new poster that obviously works in a cubicle 9 to 5. The company must really be desperate for these new guys to keep showing up on APC.

CLRtoPush

I think ur on the same no vote team.

dfwflyboy

this ^^^^ this is what its about. This is why I'll vote NO. I was okay with the "highlights" but everything got changed for the worse.