The Few.....The Not so Proud.... Yes Voter
02-11-2018, 03:59 AM
#161
Gravy Choker
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 242
More like $20-$30 on average less than Delta depending on seniority. Top end A320 is the same as Delta. Yes I know they will have a new contact eventually. In the eyes of everyone except the loud no voters, the company is reaching their ability to pay more. So if you want that extra $20 and willing to wait however long, the $20 will be taken from something else.
02-11-2018, 04:06 AM
#162
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 409
More like $20-$30 on average less than Delta depending on seniority. Top end A320 is the same as Delta. Yes I know they will have a new contact eventually. In the eyes of everyone except the loud no voters, the company is reaching their ability to pay more. So if you want that extra $20 and willing to wait however long, the $20 will be taken from something else.
02-11-2018, 04:51 AM
#163
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Office Chair
Posts: 635
More like $20-$30 on average less than Delta depending on seniority. Top end A320 is the same as Delta. Yes I know they will have a new contact eventually. In the eyes of everyone except the loud no voters, the company is reaching their ability to pay more. So if you want that extra $20 and willing to wait however long, the $20 will be taken from something else.
02-11-2018, 08:58 AM
#164
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 532
Oh poor Mom, you really fell for it......see, tell someone they're not worthy long enough and they find a way to believe it....you've just been in an abusive relationship too long
02-11-2018, 11:41 AM
#165
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 106
02-11-2018, 08:16 PM
#166
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 840
Voted NO:
- Standard work rules, NON-STANDARD PAY!
- Biggest Gripe after LOSING QUALITY-OF-LIFE CONTROLS! ... Is lack of RECOGNITION FOR YEARS OF SERVICE!
- Been here 19 years ... TA now makes me a 12yr employee. Classic move in corporate America ... would love to fire all the senior experience pay grades and hire a bunch of 3yr upgrades but cannot ...
- So the next best option is to demote them!
And yet feel "good" cause your getting your NMB approved "pay raise".
- So I'm a 19 year LTC in the AF and have done my dues (most of them sh**ty and earned my respect.) Few years to retirement or promotion. OPTEMPO bad but budget GREAT! ... biggest EVER! Sorry Colonel ... we are going to have to reduce your pay to a senior Capt or junior Major ... but hey ... you still got your Rank!! ... Be Happy.
Not-to-Worry, all us Generals are still getting all of our bonuses and beyond "god" recognition pay for holding down the forts, making huge profits and "high fives" while you are flying the missions away from home and family.
Thank goodness ... forts would be unsustainable with out you! We will give you a little lanyard and ink-jet recognition though for your efforts .... Profit sharing ... HAA .. thats just for Generals ... not for our "blue-coller" enlisted.
- A yes vote ... low tier, low pay and LOW RESPECT for AT LEAST eight more years!
WE CAN DO BETTER!
- Standard work rules, NON-STANDARD PAY!
- Biggest Gripe after LOSING QUALITY-OF-LIFE CONTROLS! ... Is lack of RECOGNITION FOR YEARS OF SERVICE!
- Been here 19 years ... TA now makes me a 12yr employee. Classic move in corporate America ... would love to fire all the senior experience pay grades and hire a bunch of 3yr upgrades but cannot ...
- So the next best option is to demote them!
And yet feel "good" cause your getting your NMB approved "pay raise".
- So I'm a 19 year LTC in the AF and have done my dues (most of them sh**ty and earned my respect.) Few years to retirement or promotion. OPTEMPO bad but budget GREAT! ... biggest EVER! Sorry Colonel ... we are going to have to reduce your pay to a senior Capt or junior Major ... but hey ... you still got your Rank!! ... Be Happy.
Not-to-Worry, all us Generals are still getting all of our bonuses and beyond "god" recognition pay for holding down the forts, making huge profits and "high fives" while you are flying the missions away from home and family.
Thank goodness ... forts would be unsustainable with out you! We will give you a little lanyard and ink-jet recognition though for your efforts .... Profit sharing ... HAA .. thats just for Generals ... not for our "blue-coller" enlisted.
- A yes vote ... low tier, low pay and LOW RESPECT for AT LEAST eight more years!
WE CAN DO BETTER!
02-11-2018, 08:54 PM
#169
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2005
Posts: 202
Voted NO:
- Standard work rules, NON-STANDARD PAY!
- Biggest Gripe after LOSING QUALITY-OF-LIFE CONTROLS! ... Is lack of RECOGNITION FOR YEARS OF SERVICE!
- Been here 19 years ... TA now makes me a 12yr employee. Classic move in corporate America ... would love to fire all the senior experience pay grades and hire a bunch of 3yr upgrades but cannot ...
- So the next best option is to demote them!
And yet feel "good" cause your getting your NMB approved "pay raise".
- So I'm a 19 year LTC in the AF and have done my dues (most of them sh**ty and earned my respect.) Few years to retirement or promotion. OPTEMPO bad but budget GREAT! ... biggest EVER! Sorry Colonel ... we are going to have to reduce your pay to a senior Capt or junior Major ... but hey ... you still got your Rank!! ... Be Happy.
Not-to-Worry, all us Generals are still getting all of our bonuses and beyond "god" recognition pay for holding down the forts, making huge profits and "high fives" while you are flying the missions away from home and family.
Thank goodness ... forts would be unsustainable with out you! We will give you a little lanyard and ink-jet recognition though for your efforts .... Profit sharing ... HAA .. thats just for Generals ... not for our "blue-coller" enlisted.
- A yes vote ... low tier, low pay and LOW RESPECT for AT LEAST eight more years!
WE CAN DO BETTER!
- Standard work rules, NON-STANDARD PAY!
- Biggest Gripe after LOSING QUALITY-OF-LIFE CONTROLS! ... Is lack of RECOGNITION FOR YEARS OF SERVICE!
- Been here 19 years ... TA now makes me a 12yr employee. Classic move in corporate America ... would love to fire all the senior experience pay grades and hire a bunch of 3yr upgrades but cannot ...
- So the next best option is to demote them!
And yet feel "good" cause your getting your NMB approved "pay raise".
- So I'm a 19 year LTC in the AF and have done my dues (most of them sh**ty and earned my respect.) Few years to retirement or promotion. OPTEMPO bad but budget GREAT! ... biggest EVER! Sorry Colonel ... we are going to have to reduce your pay to a senior Capt or junior Major ... but hey ... you still got your Rank!! ... Be Happy.
Not-to-Worry, all us Generals are still getting all of our bonuses and beyond "god" recognition pay for holding down the forts, making huge profits and "high fives" while you are flying the missions away from home and family.
Thank goodness ... forts would be unsustainable with out you! We will give you a little lanyard and ink-jet recognition though for your efforts .... Profit sharing ... HAA .. thats just for Generals ... not for our "blue-coller" enlisted.
- A yes vote ... low tier, low pay and LOW RESPECT for AT LEAST eight more years!
WE CAN DO BETTER!
02-11-2018, 10:14 PM
#170
captain scarlet
Joined APC: May 2015
Position: Who needs to know?
Posts: 170
Losing control of our lives is not worth any rates, especially not these.
Every new provision is for the company, and against our choices.
No RES drops.
Rescheduling
PBS
NO TX
9 day VAC
Currently we can chose to work hard or not.
This flexibility is severely limited in this TA.
May I add it's NOT for 5-8 years, but for the rest of our NK careers.
Work rules NEVER come BACK, pay fluctuates.
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