falcon2000aj

We already take a beating during irops. Ask those guys stuck for 5/6 days at the hotel when Harvey hit. I love waiting 3/4 even 5 hours for hotel connections to get me a room without Pay! What did y’all think we’d get? Our amazing work rules with United plus 1 pay?

Reserve drops? Really? Reserve drops are the sole reason the red green system gets effed and turns red and stops normal line holders from being able to drop. Sorry that hurts the guys that manipulate the system to credit their 140 hours months...!

Rescheduling- So after they exhaust the reserves, and the X/Y list you might get rescheduled with pay? That may happen once or twice a year!!

Yeah it sucks we didn’t get min day, 16%DC right off the bat, SWA scope, redeye overrides, and making every intl city intl override Pay... We have been playing high school ball against guys in the MLB. This TA brings us up to the minors, while earning a respectable income and retirement. If you don’t like it, then move up to the majors. The NC tried the Hail Mary and the bs NMB intercepted and caused the NC to come up a tad short. Take a deep breath, relax and make yourself a pros/cons list. Then vote based on what’s important to you.

flyingpuma1

Please don't assume that everyone that drops reserve days credits 140 a month. I drop reserve and end up averaging far below 72 to work around my wife's schedule and kids birthdays etc... Like I've said before not being able to drop reserve days is a no go for me, I've been on reserve over a year and it looks like it will still be a while, being able to drop reserve days is far more important to me then a shiny bonus they are throwing at me (or anything else)

Lincoln Osiris

Southwest didn’t go from zero to hero in one TA it takes steps and this TA is a step in the right direction.

FreeSmiles

In many sections.... It is a step in the wrong direction. You give up work rules, they never come back. Huge huge concessions in this thing.

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James B Russell

Love when people say this. The answer is no, I expected to not have section 25 blown up and get maybe united minus 20. Something in between, not one extreme or the other.

UNSUBSCRIBE

Well of course, how the F——- did you expect to get higher pay?, LTD & DC.

You think the company that filed a TRO against us is just going to pay us more just because?

Qotsaautopilot

They’ve had their scope a long long time so in subsequent negotiations they could build on their contract knowing they had a job to protect

Keizer Soze

This right here. I am a commuter and drop reserve days so that I am not away from my family for 7 or 8 days at a time with only 2 days off in between commutes, and I don't always drop because I can't always afford to. I can count on one hand the JRM assignments I've accepted in the almost 4 years I have been here and would need an abacus to keep track of the amount of phone calls from screw scheduling I've left unanswered. More power to the 140 hour credit pilots (as long as they have earned that credit within the confines of the current contract), but for those of us that use the QOL rules to actually improve the quality of our family and personal lives and not just our bank accounts, this TA seems like a huge loser.

I am not a wealthy man, nor do I have a savings account to speak of, and because of circumstances in my career path I have only just begun a 401k investment account. It is certainly attractive to me to have the company deposit funds directly into that account. It would also be a huge gain to drop a $30,000 deposit into my kids college savings account. And the bi-weekly check will be a nice improvement over my current payroll. But, the biggest advantage I see to my current quality of life is knowing exactly what my schedule is for the entire month, being able to adjust that schedule to meet family and personal requirements, having the ability to plan my work schedule around my life events and not the other way around, and most importantly coming home after assignments and being able to take off my [figurative] work hat and forget about Spirit and not worry about work in general until my next assignment begins. I am not quite sure that working under this TA will allow me these benefits. It is not just about money!

putzin

I'm not sure why you mention Southwest and Delta, when we're barely approaching Jetblue in some areas. And Jetblue will bypass us under their first contract and I'm betting Alaska too. It p*sses me off, but it's deserved when your willing to hold your head high and say 'No More!'

We have made some substantial gains, but it's coming at a disproportionate cost.

NKSMCOTAKEOVER

Man O man I really hope this online poll is representative of what the group is feeling.

I converted one college to a No vote, thankfully. He kept fixating on the pay rates. People are blinded by $$$.