This thing is a NO!
02-02-2018, 08:59 PM
#43
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THANK YOU people!
All this time I felt outnumbered.
I don't even know where to start, most major give aways have been mentioned.
Section 25 might as well not be there.
Rescheduling language?
No reserve drops!
Scope?
LTD?!
My 2 cents is that the NC put this out to prove something to the mediator.
There is no way they would approve of this and I do not think they will resign, WHEN it does NOT pass.
This is SHOCKING
Strength in unity!
All this time I felt outnumbered.
I don't even know where to start, most major give aways have been mentioned.
Section 25 might as well not be there.
Rescheduling language?
No reserve drops!
Scope?
LTD?!
My 2 cents is that the NC put this out to prove something to the mediator.
There is no way they would approve of this and I do not think they will resign, WHEN it does NOT pass.
This is SHOCKING
Strength in unity!
However, you now have another 'no' voter in your camp and that would be me.
There is literally nothing to discuss.
Over and out!
02-02-2018, 09:04 PM
#44
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02-02-2018, 09:31 PM
#48
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I was a solid NO on page 1. Specifically 1-B-3
And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:
1-D-g and 1-E-6
Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"
Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"
2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES
Merger protections lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!
IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?
And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:
1-D-g and 1-E-6
Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"
Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"
2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES
Merger protections lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!
IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?
Last edited by Ed Force One; 02-02-2018 at 09:41 PM. Reason: Fixed "all scope is lost"
02-02-2018, 09:36 PM
#49
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I was a solid NO on page 1. Specifically 1-B-3
And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:
1-D-g and 1-E-6
Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"
Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"
2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES
All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!
IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?
And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:
1-D-g and 1-E-6
Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"
Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"
2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES
All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!
IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?
Nice catch, and things continue to get worse. 🤦🏼*♂️
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02-02-2018, 09:39 PM
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Position: NK CA
Posts: 838
I was a solid NO on page 1. Specifically 1-B-3
And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:
1-D-g and 1-E-6
Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"
Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"
2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES
All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!
IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?
And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:
1-D-g and 1-E-6
Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"
Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"
2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES
All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!
IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?
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