This thing is a NO!
02-09-2018, 03:18 PM
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02-09-2018, 03:42 PM
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02-09-2018, 04:05 PM
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I agree with but more worrisome is the international codeshare or domestic with airbus sized planes. The current business model doesn’t really support RJs but there absolutely shouldn’t be open season for anything. The legacy pilots didn’t think RJs were a threat either but we know how that worked out
02-09-2018, 04:13 PM
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02-09-2018, 04:29 PM
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Not a spirit guy, but just following your contract stuff. How is this legal under 117? After block in they can't reroute you unless you get 10 hours rest, right? I think we just had some guys get in trouble at my airline for this. They were on the way to the hotel and scheduling called to reroute them and they ended up getting busted for breaking an FAR. Maybe something to run by the legal dept...
02-09-2018, 04:34 PM
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Not a spirit guy, but just following your contract stuff. How is this legal under 117? After block in they can't reroute you unless you get 10 hours rest, right? I think we just had some guys get in trouble at my airline for this. They were on the way to the hotel and scheduling called to reroute them and they ended up getting busted for breaking an FAR. Maybe something to run by the legal dept...
Q-38. A flight crewmember completes all flight segments that were scheduled for his/her FDP. Can the certificate holder require the flightcrew member to remain at the airport because he/she may be given another flight assignment?
Yes. If the certificate holder does not have an affirmative intent for no further aircraft movement at the conclusion
of a flightcrew member’s last scheduled segment, then the flightcrew member’s FDP has not ended. Until the FDP
has ended, the certificate holder can assign the flightcrew member additional flight segments that end within that crewmember’s maximum allowable FDP. Even though additional flying or aircraft movement by that flightcrew member may not actually occur, the time spent prior to release complying with a carrier’s instructions or policies to standby or to check a schedule for possible further aircraft movement is considered flight duty and counts toward daily and cumulative FDP limits.
02-09-2018, 04:40 PM
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interesting-thanks for posting. Seems like a pretty grey area to me determining whether or not your FDP had ended or not. Pretty fine line they're walking there.
I had the same question, From the ALPA 117 guide
Q-38. A flight crewmember completes all flight segments that were scheduled for his/her FDP. Can the certificate holder require the flightcrew member to remain at the airport because he/she may be given another flight assignment?
Yes. If the certificate holder does not have an affirmative intent for no further aircraft movement at the conclusion
of a flightcrew member’s last scheduled segment, then the flightcrew member’s FDP has not ended. Until the FDP
has ended, the certificate holder can assign the flightcrew member additional flight segments that end within that crewmember’s maximum allowable FDP. Even though additional flying or aircraft movement by that flightcrew member may not actually occur, the time spent prior to release complying with a carrier’s instructions or policies to standby or to check a schedule for possible further aircraft movement is considered flight duty and counts toward daily and cumulative FDP limits.
Q-38. A flight crewmember completes all flight segments that were scheduled for his/her FDP. Can the certificate holder require the flightcrew member to remain at the airport because he/she may be given another flight assignment?
Yes. If the certificate holder does not have an affirmative intent for no further aircraft movement at the conclusion
of a flightcrew member’s last scheduled segment, then the flightcrew member’s FDP has not ended. Until the FDP
has ended, the certificate holder can assign the flightcrew member additional flight segments that end within that crewmember’s maximum allowable FDP. Even though additional flying or aircraft movement by that flightcrew member may not actually occur, the time spent prior to release complying with a carrier’s instructions or policies to standby or to check a schedule for possible further aircraft movement is considered flight duty and counts toward daily and cumulative FDP limits.
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