This thing is a NO!
02-05-2018, 11:41 AM
#201
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Thanks for the personal attack, stay classy! That said, I appreciate your support in our picketing events.
However, I won't be voting to appease you. I'll be doing what's best, in my opinion, for me and my career. That's why it's called voting and everyone has the ability to cast theirs. Should the TA fail, so be it. On to another X amount of time for the next one (most likely another year or more). If it passes, so be it. On to the clock starting for the next bargaining cycle.
However, I won't be voting to appease you. I'll be doing what's best, in my opinion, for me and my career. That's why it's called voting and everyone has the ability to cast theirs. Should the TA fail, so be it. On to another X amount of time for the next one (most likely another year or more). If it passes, so be it. On to the clock starting for the next bargaining cycle.
Good luck in your decision.
02-05-2018, 12:40 PM
#202
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02-05-2018, 01:53 PM
#203
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Absolutely, vote what is best for you in a TA. You were spinning the idea that starting the clock on 5 year (realistically 7-8 year) TA is good thing so you can get back to the table sooner. My argument was that if you get the TA you (yes, you) want now, then you don’t have to worry about expediting your return to the table for the next round of negotiations. Understood?
Good luck in your decision.
Good luck in your decision.
Perhaps you should focus on F9 and the many issues you have over there?
02-05-2018, 03:01 PM
#204
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I am a little surprised at the change in hotel language. To me it is as big an effect on QOL as anything else (former Mesa here). It's our home away from home. Since coming here from the regionals I've noticed my overall health has improved because of our long stay overnights (better workout facilities, more healthy dining options, access to a variety of amenities as a pedestrian, etc).
The majority of my overnights here are in the 15-17 hour range which under the new TA would put us in whatever low income area is right next to the airport, complete with a waffle house and Micky Ds across the street. Plus a whole lot more waiting around the airport for the hotel shuttle...no thanks.
The majority of my overnights here are in the 15-17 hour range which under the new TA would put us in whatever low income area is right next to the airport, complete with a waffle house and Micky Ds across the street. Plus a whole lot more waiting around the airport for the hotel shuttle...no thanks.
02-05-2018, 03:05 PM
#205
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I am a little surprised at the change in hotel language. To me it is as big an effect on QOL as anything else (former Mesa here). It's our home away from home. Since coming here from the regionals I've noticed my overall health has improved because of our long stay overnights (better workout facilities, more healthy dining options, access to a variety of amenities as a pedestrian, etc).
The majority of my overnights here are in the 15-17 hour range which under the new TA would put us in whatever low income area is right next to the airport, complete with a waffle house and Micky Ds across the street.
The majority of my overnights here are in the 15-17 hour range which under the new TA would put us in whatever low income area is right next to the airport, complete with a waffle house and Micky Ds across the street.
02-05-2018, 03:19 PM
#207
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The quality of the hotels and amenities available at airport hotels are generally lower than the downtown hotels. In addition, I submit that the cost of airport hotels will save money for management.
This change to 18 hours for long stay hotels is just another example of the watering down of our contract which looks more and more like a regional contract.
02-05-2018, 03:50 PM
#208
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I disagree. This is a concession to management.
The quality of the hotels and amenities available at airport hotels are generally lower than the downtown hotels. In addition, I submit that the cost of airport hotels will save money for management.
This change to 18 hours for long stay hotels is just another example of the watering down of our contract which looks more and more like a regional contract.
The quality of the hotels and amenities available at airport hotels are generally lower than the downtown hotels. In addition, I submit that the cost of airport hotels will save money for management.
This change to 18 hours for long stay hotels is just another example of the watering down of our contract which looks more and more like a regional contract.
02-05-2018, 03:53 PM
#209
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Thanks for the reply. I'm certainly interested in what's to come. I'll have to give him a call.
02-05-2018, 04:54 PM
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I disagree. This is a concession to management.
The quality of the hotels and amenities available at airport hotels are generally lower than the downtown hotels. In addition, I submit that the cost of airport hotels will save money for management.
This change to 18 hours for long stay hotels is just another example of the watering down of our contract which looks more and more like a regional contract.
The quality of the hotels and amenities available at airport hotels are generally lower than the downtown hotels. In addition, I submit that the cost of airport hotels will save money for management.
This change to 18 hours for long stay hotels is just another example of the watering down of our contract which looks more and more like a regional contract.
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