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02-03-2018, 05:38 AM

#101

AllOva736

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If this thing does pass, I have a feeling it will be junior CA's that tip the scale. They stand to make a 50-60k bonus plus a $70ish thousand dollar pay raise. FO's really don't get squat in this deal

02-03-2018, 06:13 AM

#102

cf105

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

eeer, kindda, no?

FOs gets over the $100 mark Year 2 instead of Year 7. Kindda better, no?

02-03-2018, 06:15 AM

#103

putzin

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

Not this junior Capt. Way to many years left to deal with this many shortfalls!

Once the economy hiccups the mediocre rates are gone and the crap work rules stay or get worse.

If any really want to make this a last stop, more pain will be involved.

02-03-2018, 06:26 AM

#104

Super EZ E

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

Worse than legacy work rules. Worse compensation.

Weak scope. They didn’t even attempt to buy the gutting of work rules. We expected concessions but this is a blood bath.

Yes, I've worked under a legacy contract, watched it get gutted. Now I'm watching History repeat. Easy for me, it's a NO.

02-03-2018, 06:40 AM

#105

dotslash

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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE

By all means. Vote No. I mean it, but please go to the Road show and voice your concerns etc. I dont say that so they “sell” you on it, just so you get all questions answered etc

Road show at last company was like being trapped in time share sales presentation.

02-03-2018, 07:04 AM

#106

atrdriver

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Originally Posted by astral

THANK YOU people!
All this time I felt outnumbered.
I don't even know where to start, most major give aways have been mentioned.

Section 25 might as well not be there.
Rescheduling language?
No reserve drops!
Scope?
LTD?!

My 2 cents is that the NC put this out to prove something to the mediator.
There is no way they would approve of this and I do not think they will resign, WHEN it does NOT pass.
This is SHOCKING

Strength in unity!

If they put it out to prove a point to the mediator, you all had better hope it gets shot down by a huge margin to send that message. Otherwise.......

Sorry guys...... over here we were really pulling for you to get something great. Best of luck to you in the coming weeks.

02-03-2018, 07:16 AM

#107

Macjet

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

They lost me at section 1 anyway

You and me both.

02-03-2018, 07:30 AM

#108

jetliner1526

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TA copy

I'd love to get my hands on a copy of your TA. My address is [email protected]. Thanks.

02-03-2018, 07:42 AM

#109

Riverside

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Originally Posted by jetliner1526

I'd love to get my hands on a copy of your TA. My address is [email protected]. Thanks.

Incoming spam mail.

02-03-2018, 07:49 AM

#110

TheDudeabide

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If you are looking at Spirit as a long term place to work, this should be an easy NO vote. How long will it take to get what we deserve, could be 6 months to 2 years. But a yes vote makes this a 5 year deal plus another 2 or 3 in negotiations so 7-8 years of crap. This isn’t even close to industry standard now, and those other airlines are goi g to get a new contract in the meantime. This is a regional type contract at best. No voter here. Don’t settle just for a raise. Which is $20-40 an hour short anyway