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Old 02-03-2018, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan Spadowski
we are kidding ourselves if we think a ROAD SHOW will shine up this greasy sh%t and make it look fresh looking.....
I'm not even wasting my time going to a road show to listen to PS talk to me like I'm too stupid to realize why this is good for me.

The entire agreement shouldn't even be printed on toilet paper. What a disgrace to this group after 3 years of talks.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NKtruthseeker
I'm not even wasting my time going to a road show to listen to PS talk to me like I'm too stupid to realize why this is good for me.

The entire agreement shouldn't even be printed on toilet paper. What a disgrace to this group after 3 years of talks.
sadly too many people on the "What App" have the wool pulled over their eyes and don't see this..........
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:13 PM
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Current JetBlue rates for gutting section 25
NO thanks.
This is a 5-7 year commitment
It really is amazing. I wonder how many yes voters would still vote yes if there was no bonus. If they were honest with themselves, probably very few.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:13 PM
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I will go the road shows to ask the real reasons why this was presented for a vote.
I respect the NC and I'm shocked with the outcome!
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NKtruthseeker
I'm not even wasting my time going to a road show to listen to PS talk to me like I'm too stupid to realize why this is good for me.

The entire agreement shouldn't even be printed on toilet paper. What a disgrace to this group after 3 years of talks.
I’m going, hoping to see some action!
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
I’m going, hoping to see some action!
Guys are heated and we have some knuckle draggers that can’t keep their cool. I hope it stays civilized. Seeing action accomplished nothing.
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Guys are heated and we have some knuckle draggers that can’t keep their cool. I hope it stays civilized. Seeing action accomplished nothing.
True, but it starts from leadership. We all know our NC can’t keep their cool either when challenged.
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by astral
I will go the road shows to ask the real reasons why this was presented for a vote.
I respect the NC and I'm shocked with the outcome!
If the NC didn't think this would pass, it wouldn't be going out for a vote. When the spouses of many captains find out they're going to get $50k-$74k bonuses and will be making $200k+ a year, expect a lot of yes votes despite the rhetoric. That's a nicer house, a funded retirement, a child's education paid for, a spouse that can now stay home with the kids, etc. It's serious and for some a life changing amount of money. Maybe saying No will yield more quickly, but if you're wrong, well at least you can puff out your chest...
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by James B Russell
It really is amazing. I wonder how many yes voters would still vote yes if there was no bonus. If they were honest with themselves, probably very few.
Well none of the FO's to start with. FO bonuses are bullSh1t
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW
If the NC didn't think this would pass, it wouldn't be going out for a vote. When the spouses of many captains find out they're going to get $50k-$74k bonuses and will be making $200k+ a year, expect a lot of yes votes despite the rhetoric. That's a nicer house, a funded retirement, a child's education paid for, a spouse that can now stay home with the kids, etc. It's serious and for some a life changing amount of money. Maybe saying No will yield more quickly, but if you're wrong, well at least you can puff out your chest...
It’s only a bonus. Everything else is contingent on a 747,320,or rj not flying through the Jenna Jameson sized hole in scope
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