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Old 02-02-2018, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flyboyike
Where is this calculator? I couldn't make hands or tails of the language itself, since I'm not very smart.
Its on the main page, says "PayRate/Ratification Compensation Estimator"
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:58 PM
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Its on the main page, says "PayRate/Ratification Compensation Estimator"
It seems you can't view it from a phone. Also, you need computer with Excel. Might be out of luck if you have a Mac.
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made up numbers for someone whos been there for 15 years, 4 years (and upgraded last year) and 1 year.

It was roughly $75,000 $40,000 and $9,000
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Originally Posted by a2cbus
It seems you can't view it from a phone. Also, you need computer with Excel. Might be out of luck if you have a Mac.
I have excel on my Mac, so it works if you have excel on your Mac.

Text a buddy, I guess, and have him run it.
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Do folks under a year get any scraps.
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Do folks under a year get any scraps.
Anywhere from $1,000 for a FNG on property to $9k for a guy coming off probation
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:21 PM
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What is first year pay? Second year?
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
What is first year pay? Second year?
1-$56
2-$104

Yuck

Way less than industry average, considering we fly the same a/c and routes as our peers (quotso wouldn’t have settled for this a few months ago, but all of a sudden it’s ok).
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Originally Posted by more windshear
1-$56
2-$104

Yuck
Yeah... going to those pay rates and adding PBS at the same time isn't going to do much for attracting new hires going forward.
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Big picture, pay scale is enough to attract pilots who have enough experience to be able to choose between regionals or ULCC, but not enough to retain them or attract pilots who are already competitive hires for anything above the bottom-tier ULCCs like spirit.

It bumps spirit back up above regional pay rates, and is likely enough pay to effectively deter most CAs from jumping ship for pay alone.

QOL concessions are a different story. At first glance, it doesn't look much different from what my friends at skywest have, with the exception of slightly higher numbers across the board. Same rules, just higher numbers.

I'm guessing the "juniority" CASM tailwind bullet will reappear on the investor slideshow, as this contract will cause the turnover churn to go into full speed.
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