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02-02-2018, 08:15 AM

#31

Bwipilot

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It may be that the company wants to avoid scope protections so they can wet lease (or other similar solutions) when they can't find pilots if/when the pilot shortage truly rears its ugly head.

02-02-2018, 08:19 AM

#32

putzin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by astral

Agree that everyone should be filling out apps.
While doing so, we should NOT just be going for the money, but protect our CBA for a rainy day and those who stay.
I know you did not mean it that way.

I didn't and that's why I'm worried less about PBS and more about SCOPE, LTD, RETIREMENT.

02-02-2018, 09:02 AM

#33

astral

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwipilot

It may be that the company wants to avoid scope protections so they can wet lease (or other similar solutions) when they can't find pilots if/when the pilot shortage truly rears its ugly head.

Thanks
I hope we can all agree on one thing:
Without ironclad solid SCOPE there is no CBA.
It's worthless

02-02-2018, 02:43 PM

#34

Qotsaautopilot

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Con:

New hire training pay is the same.

That’s astonishing and laughable

02-02-2018, 02:50 PM

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NKtruthseeker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

Con:

New hire training pay is the same.

That’s astonishing and laughable

Con is the entire pay table

02-02-2018, 02:54 PM

#36

bodean

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Originally Posted by NKtruthseeker

Con is the entire pay table

Dilly Dilly

02-02-2018, 02:56 PM

#37

more windshear

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And why are any of us surprised by this??? I’m sure it will still be hard to overcome the instant gratification that most will receive in the form of a pay increase and a “bonus” for signing such garbage. Insert carrot dangle here.

02-02-2018, 03:09 PM

#38

bruhaha

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At first glance looks like there is no signing bonus (in section 3) for ratification like there was in the 2010 contract.

Edit:
Strike my last comment....

I see my error.

I had a copy of the old contract on one ipad and a copy of the new contract on another ipad comparing them side by side and the old contract had a section on signing bonus where as the new contract it was totally removed.

So there is a LOA addressing the signing bonus I hadn't gotten to yet. Just looking at section 1, 2 and 3.

It would be better to just look at the markups instead of comparing the two contracts side by side.

Last edited by bruhaha; 02-02-2018 at 03:47 PM.