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11-26-2019, 04:52 AM
#91
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They just swapped the roles on the ground. Flows are the same. Captain always PF on ground; Captain does PF Cockpit Prep and FO does Preliminary Cockpit Prep effective December 2nd. You should be fine.
11-26-2019, 04:59 AM
#92
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To confuse things even more, I believe the book says that while the initial powerup of the flightdeck is a FO task, it can be performed by the captain if he/she is the first to the plane. So basically, whoever walks on the plane first does that very first flow.
During training, the trainee in the captain seat will do the cockpit prep flow while the trainee in the right seat, who's PF for the "flight", does the FMS setup. We discovered it's a huge time saver and allows us to get off the gate in like 10 minutes.
During training, the trainee in the captain seat will do the cockpit prep flow while the trainee in the right seat, who's PF for the "flight", does the FMS setup. We discovered it's a huge time saver and allows us to get off the gate in like 10 minutes.
11-26-2019, 07:30 AM
#93
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To confuse things even more, I believe the book says that while the initial powerup of the flightdeck is a FO task, it can be performed by the captain if he/she is the first to the plane. So basically, whoever walks on the plane first does that very first flow.
During training, the trainee in the captain seat will do the cockpit prep flow while the trainee in the right seat, who's PF for the "flight", does the FMS setup. We discovered it's a huge time saver and allows us to get off the gate in like 10 minutes.
During training, the trainee in the captain seat will do the cockpit prep flow while the trainee in the right seat, who's PF for the "flight", does the FMS setup. We discovered it's a huge time saver and allows us to get off the gate in like 10 minutes.
Thankfully it isn’t this complicated on the line; whoever gets there first does the PCP flow. Captain is back to doing the overhead flows and the box is done by the CA or PF, usually the CA while the FO is doing the walk.
So even though the change is annoying, it’s good they are moving is back
11-26-2019, 07:46 AM
#94
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Position: A320, FO
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11-26-2019, 07:53 AM
#95
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That’s how it always was before this latest round of tinkering.
Thankfully it isn’t this complicated on the line; whoever gets there first does the PCP flow. Captain is back to doing the overhead flows and the box is done by the CA or PF, usually the CA while the FO is doing the walk.
So even though the change is annoying, it’s good they are moving is back
Thankfully it isn’t this complicated on the line; whoever gets there first does the PCP flow. Captain is back to doing the overhead flows and the box is done by the CA or PF, usually the CA while the FO is doing the walk.
So even though the change is annoying, it’s good they are moving is back
I remember flying the line after this change came out. I can’t tell you how many CAs I flew with, but not a single one changed anything.
I was usually the first one there so I did my “first to the plane” flow, then I would do the walk around and come back and do my usual stuff.
Even when it was “my leg” The CAs would still do their PF flow even though, technically, it was supposed to be done by the FO if it was their leg.
My gist was, absolutely no one on the line (except for probably a couple sticklers) changed a damn thing.
11-26-2019, 08:01 AM
#96
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 813
Good to hear it’s going back to how it was. I haven’t flown on reserve in 6 weeks now lol.
I remember flying the line after this change came out. I can’t tell you how many CAs I flew with, but not a single one changed anything.
I was usually the first one there so I did my “first to the plane” flow, then I would do the walk around and come back and do my usual stuff.
Even when it was “my leg” The CAs would still do their PF flow even though, technically, it was supposed to be done by the FO if it was their leg.
My gist was, absolutely no one on the line (except for probably a couple sticklers) changed a damn thing.
I remember flying the line after this change came out. I can’t tell you how many CAs I flew with, but not a single one changed anything.
I was usually the first one there so I did my “first to the plane” flow, then I would do the walk around and come back and do my usual stuff.
Even when it was “my leg” The CAs would still do their PF flow even though, technically, it was supposed to be done by the FO if it was their leg.
My gist was, absolutely no one on the line (except for probably a couple sticklers) changed a damn thing.
11-26-2019, 12:51 PM
#97
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,330
Good to hear it’s going back to how it was. I haven’t flown on reserve in 6 weeks now lol.
I remember flying the line after this change came out. I can’t tell you how many CAs I flew with, but not a single one changed anything.
I was usually the first one there so I did my “first to the plane” flow, then I would do the walk around and come back and do my usual stuff.
Even when it was “my leg” The CAs would still do their PF flow even though, technically, it was supposed to be done by the FO if it was their leg.
My gist was, absolutely no one on the line (except for probably a couple sticklers) changed a damn thing.
I remember flying the line after this change came out. I can’t tell you how many CAs I flew with, but not a single one changed anything.
I was usually the first one there so I did my “first to the plane” flow, then I would do the walk around and come back and do my usual stuff.
Even when it was “my leg” The CAs would still do their PF flow even though, technically, it was supposed to be done by the FO if it was their leg.
My gist was, absolutely no one on the line (except for probably a couple sticklers) changed a damn thing.
11-26-2019, 01:07 PM
#98
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 813
It’s new SOP, I assume you follow this
11-26-2019, 05:21 PM
#100
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 47
I’m getting ready to come back from home study and start CSI’s. Any advice for this next phase? Areas to pay particularly attention to?
Also, when can you expect to have your background check done? Nobody in our class has them done yet but we’ve all had our info in for months already, just curious.
Thanks in advance.
Also, when can you expect to have your background check done? Nobody in our class has them done yet but we’ve all had our info in for months already, just curious.
Thanks in advance.
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