Jumping Ship!
11-16-2017, 06:58 AM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Port Bus
Posts: 725
All the negative talk aside... I'm genuinely considering Spirit as a potential life raft.
My current QOL = <0.
Pay = Subpar.
Schedule = Nonexistent.
Request a vacation or day off? = "Hahaha NO"
Always On Call.
How does 16hr+ days all week sound?
Etc. etc. etc.
- - - - - - - - - -
Why Spirit?
I want a schedule!
Willing to take first year pay cut.
A320 ain't a bad type.
Florida is nice in the winter.
TT - 2,000+
Multi. Turbine - 1,000+
Handful of TPIC
Do I have a snowballs shot in h*ll in getting "The Call"?
My current QOL = <0.
Pay = Subpar.
Schedule = Nonexistent.
Request a vacation or day off? = "Hahaha NO"
Always On Call.
How does 16hr+ days all week sound?
Etc. etc. etc.
- - - - - - - - - -
Why Spirit?
I want a schedule!
Willing to take first year pay cut.
A320 ain't a bad type.
Florida is nice in the winter.
TT - 2,000+
Multi. Turbine - 1,000+
Handful of TPIC
Do I have a snowballs shot in h*ll in getting "The Call"?
Dont cut off more than you can chew. Look at the new hire failure rate. You wash out...you are completely hosed.
11-16-2017, 07:05 AM
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 290
A spirit pilot friend of mine asked me my opinion if leaving Spirit for Envoy would be wise.... my answer was "hell yea!!" You get a AA seniority number and upgrade at Envoy very FAST, you also get a $40k signing bonus, and looking at the numbers at AA the average age of a pilot is 58 years old! That 5 year flow will certainly come down! So, you can be at AA in 5yrs or less and get a signing bonus and be a CA at Envoy in months making more than Spirit!
11-16-2017, 07:12 AM
#43
Gravy Choker
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 242
I’m at Envoy and my perception is ANY seniority Spirit pilot would be 1000% better off in coming here. Guaranteed flow to AA, instant upgrade, DFW, MIA, LGA or ORD bade, 175s. No more BS Spirit payscale flying for the absolute bottom feeding North American carrier. Would highly recommend as many of you as possible to make the jump to Envoy.
11-16-2017, 07:17 AM
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A319, A320, A321
Posts: 547
11-16-2017, 07:23 AM
#45
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 211
I’m at Envoy and my perception is ANY seniority Spirit pilot would be 1000% better off in coming here. Guaranteed flow to AA, instant upgrade, DFW, MIA, LGA or ORD bade, 175s. No more BS Spirit payscale flying for the absolute bottom feeding North American carrier. Would highly recommend as many of you as possible to make the jump to Envoy.
“GUARANTEED flow....” or “INSTANT upgrade....”
Aviation career history is LITTERED with folks who tried to cash those checks.....
11-16-2017, 07:25 AM
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,154
Typical take-home could be be around $3000-$3500/mo second year if you buy any benefits, a far cry from $80k.
11-16-2017, 07:42 AM
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Position: Discount Pilot
Posts: 183
Before taxes and any other deductions, guarantee will be about $5100/month, so that's a lot closer to $60k/year. Add on $400-$500/month per-diem and you're looking at $66k/year before taxes/deductions. If you fly well over guarantee and carefully utilize your 5 JRM trips only on trips worth 20 hrs credit or more, you could potentially get up to $80k. But you're going to have to work at it. For example, 5 20-hour JRM trips gets you an additional $7200 pre-tax which still doesn't get you close to $80k.
Typical take-home could be be around $3000-$3500/mo second year if you buy any benefits, a far cry from $80k.
Typical take-home could be be around $3000-$3500/mo second year if you buy any benefits, a far cry from $80k.
11-16-2017, 07:53 AM
#49
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 83
You like those odds??
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