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Old 11-14-2017, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mkfmbos
I think most people coming to Spirit have that 50% raise in mind. If you look at year one salary only then you aren't thinking clearly. In 10 years you could potentially be making 160k. It's not even close to the worst thing in the industry. Not close to the best either.
What industry? U.S Major airline pilot? Yeah it is. The only thing worse is Frontier. If you’re considering all the rag tag 121 and 135 jobs out there full of guys that decided they didn’t need to go to college then yeah maybe it’s not the worst. And in 10 years $160k isn’t gonna buy a family of 4 much. Especially if you want the kids to go to college and yourself to retire one day.

Point being, this is a major airline pilot job with 235 lives of responsibility and should be compensated at the very top of the industry along with those on the same equipment and routes. That type of compensation should allow the company to be selective and cherry pick highly qualified candidates that are also a good fit. Attracting only those that are under qualified and looking for a life raft because it’s not the worst is a recipe for a litteral disaster that puts everyone’s future at risk. It’s complete BS and it’s ****ing me off.

If you want a schedule there are plenty of regional jobs out there that pay more than Spirit and have Florida bases and have flow through agreements
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:00 PM
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There are zero facts to the second half of this post.
I know, I was still being somewhat sarcastic to Mr. Niceweather Lol

But seriously I heard there is another big announcement this Friday. It could be the DEN base opening up.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
But seriously I heard there is another big announcement this Friday. It could be the DEN base opening up.
Enough with that crap already, it's getting old.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:07 PM
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Enough with that crap already, it's getting old.

Sorry dude. I think it's too late. I think Mr. Niceweather already applied after I told him about all the hot babes and warm weather destinations we are/will be flying to.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:07 PM
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I’m pressing the Meeseeks box button to off this Mr. Meeseeks.....

My Mr. Meeseeks: Cannnnn dooooooo!!!!
Existence is pain Tranquility! Ohhhhhhh yah!
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Enough with that crap already, it's getting old.
Okay man I'm sorry. I shouldn't be spreading false information on an anonymous Internet forum. I apologize it's actually next Tuesday when the announcement will be made. I had my dates wrong. I'm sorry.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:16 PM
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I know, I was still being somewhat sarcastic to Mr. Niceweather Lol

But seriously I heard there is another big announcement this Friday. It could be the DEN base opening up.
Shouldn't you be more concerned with studying your flows as a new hire?

Maybe this is why guys are busting in record numbers; too much time on the forums and too little time in the AOM.

You are kind of exhausting and you aren't even in CASS yet
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
What industry? U.S Major airline pilot? Yeah it is. The only thing worse is Frontier. If you’re considering all the rag tag 121 and 135 jobs out there full of guys that decided they didn’t need to go to college then yeah maybe it’s not the worst. And in 10 years $160k isn’t gonna buy a family of 4 much. Especially if you want the kids to go to college and yourself to retire one day.

Point being, this is a major airline pilot job with 235 lives of responsibility and should be compensated at the very top of the industry along with those on the same equipment and routes. That type of compensation should allow the company to be selective and cherry pick highly qualified candidates that are also a good fit. Attracting only those that are under qualified and looking for a life raft because it’s not the worst is a recipe for a litteral disaster that puts everyone’s future at risk. It’s complete BS and it’s ****ing me off.

If you want a schedule there are plenty of regional jobs out there that pay more than Spirit and have Florida bases and have flow through agreements
I agree that there should be qualified guys. 2k is a bit light on time for sure. With a 50% raise it makes it a career stop though. Top captain would be maing over 200k. Of course a FedEx captain is making 300k+. An A320 UAL captain is making 250k. This is not accounting for retirement of course which is much much better than Spirits or JBLU or Vigin or whoever. Unfortunatly though an LCC will never make what the Legacy carriers make. But in a downturn the legacies will layoff 2000 guys, where airlines like Jetblue and Southwest have had very few if any layoffs. That is a benifit. LCCs are the furture until airplanes fly themselves which is the plan. By the way any pilot caught helping in the development of such technology should be taken out back and beaten in front of their children.
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I agree that there should be qualified guys. 2k is a bit light on time for sure. With a 50% raise it makes it a career stop though. Top captain would be maing over 200k. Of course a FedEx captain is making 300k+. An A320 UAL captain is making 250k. This is not accounting for retirement of course which is much much better than Spirits or JBLU or Vigin or whoever. Unfortunatly though an LCC will never make what the Legacy carriers make. But in a downturn the legacies will layoff 2000 guys, where airlines like Jetblue and Southwest have had very few if any layoffs. That is a benifit. LCCs are the furture until airplanes fly themselves which is the plan. By the way any pilot caught helping in the development of such technology should be taken out back and beaten in front of their children.

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Old 11-14-2017, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mkfmbos
I agree that there should be qualified guys. 2k is a bit light on time for sure. With a 50% raise it makes it a career stop though. Top captain would be maing over 200k. Of course a FedEx captain is making 300k+. An A320 UAL captain is making 250k. This is not accounting for retirement of course which is much much better than Spirits or JBLU or Vigin or whoever. Unfortunatly though an LCC will never make what the Legacy carriers make. But in a downturn the legacies will layoff 2000 guys, where airlines like Jetblue and Southwest have had very few if any layoffs. That is a benifit. LCCs are the furture until airplanes fly themselves which is the plan. By the way any pilot caught helping in the development of such technology should be taken out back and beaten in front of their children.
What is the cost of failure if your iPhone or labtop had a glitch or software failure? What is the cost of failure if your self flying A-390 has a failure? My point being I don't think that will ever happen because of loss of lives of having a software error or some kind of fault. Okay your iPad had a glitch well maybe you lost that document that you really needed for that Walmart Interview as a greeter. Okay my Airbus A390 has a glitch oh crap it crashes and 200 people are dead. The more computers you put in there's planes the more reason there is to have us in them. Think there going to fly them from the ground? Read the LA times on how many drone crashes the Air Force has had from loosing signal. (1/3 of their fleet) Think they are going to go down to 1 pilot? Tell me is there anything in 121 that doesn't have a back up or set of if one goes wrong? Multiple-engines, multiple hydraulic systems, back up electrical systems, multiple tires per gear. Multiple ways to lower the gear, and multiple pilots?

I wouldn't worry about it for another 150 years.
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