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Old 10-29-2017, 11:05 PM
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Ha, where did you get butt hurt? I agreed with you on one point ......... it.

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Old 10-29-2017, 11:20 PM
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1) Please quote me where I am "promoting management propaganda".

2) Please explain to me how "time is on our side". I would assume its on managements because they have zero incentive to go back to the table when they are getting our pilot group at a huge discount and they are slowing orders. Side note; any idea how we can "force" them back to the negotiation table? Or is that assuming the moderator will give a damn?
If you are in fact a member of this pilot group I suggest you pick up a telephone and call both the NC and SPSC and have your questions answered. I think you will have more clarity. This is not where you get that information. If you’re not capable of doing that and keep asking these same questions constantly then I have to assume you are not a member of this group in which case you are going to have to continue to poison the well with a new screen name. I’m sure you have a clever one already thought up.
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
If you are in fact a member of this pilot group I suggest you pick up a telephone and call both the NC and SPSC and have your questions answered. I think you will have more clarity. This is not where you get that information. If you’re not capable of doing that and keep asking these same questions constantly then I have to assume you are not a member of this group in which case you are going to have to continue to poison the well with a new screen name. I’m sure you have a clever one already thought up.
Lol bro, have you ever tried to call or e-mail ANY member or the NC or SPSC? I have multiple times and have yet to get a response on ANYTHING. You are like a broken record saying that for like the 10th time now. I will continue to ask what ever I like on here.
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Lol bro, have you ever tried to call or e-mail ANY member or the NC or SPSC? I have multiple times and have yet to get a response on ANYTHING. You are like a broken record saying that for like the 10th time now. I will continue to ask what ever I like on here.
Reps call back within an hour, emails to NC and SPSC replied to within a few days here. I'm just a line pilot, nothing special, so why do I get this type of response and you don't? Maybe because you're full of Bendo.
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:20 AM
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Reps call back within an hour, emails to NC and SPSC replied to within a few days here. I'm just a line pilot, nothing special, so why do I get this type of response and you don't? Maybe because you're full of Bendo.
"Maybe because you're full of Bendo". How original. Why would I lie about something like that? Literally why? On top of that how hard is it for our union to send out e mails about where we go from here? But no all we have come up with so far is billboards and phone calls.
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
Feng, You're not even a pilot but you got an APC account to troll the Spirit threads. I have a feeling someone is getting a little side money to troll this thread. Now how about you get off APC, go spend a little time with your very dissatisfied wife and think about your life choices. I hope you find what you're looking for. By the way not only are you very proactive troll but you actually chose the name FENG. How stupid can you actually be?
Lads and lasses, your collective hurtful words have led to the decision for me to take a hiatus until after the holidays so I can spend some quality time with my very dissatisfied wife. (plus management don't work no holidays ) I hope y'all do much winning between now and then. Without me on the boards to manage expectations, you're sure to have an industry leading contract by then. I wish you all a pleasant Halloween, Thanksgiving, Hanukkah, and New Years! Farewell friends!
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Lol bro, have you ever tried to call or e-mail ANY member or the NC or SPSC? I have multiple times and have yet to get a response on ANYTHING. You are like a broken record saying that for like the 10th time now. I will continue to ask what ever I like on here.
Lol, I speak with members of N/C often and get my emails responded to within minutes
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:16 AM
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Lads and lasses, your collective hurtful words have led to the decision for me to take a hiatus until after the holidays so I can spend some quality time with my very dissatisfied wife. (plus management don't work no holidays ) I hope y'all do much winning between now and then. Without me on the boards to manage expectations, you're sure to have an industry leading contract by then. I wish you all a pleasant Halloween, Thanksgiving, Hanukkah, and New Years! Farewell friends!
F-yeah! looks like we finally got rid of that [****] sucker.

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Old 10-30-2017, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
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2) Please explain to me how "time is on our side". I would assume its on managements because they have zero incentive to go back to the table when they are getting our pilot group at a huge discount and they are slowing orders. Side note; any idea how we can "force" them back to the negotiation table? Or is that assuming the moderator will give a damn?
Time is not on our side despite what some of the louder voices say on here. The industry is past peak earnings and the economy is overdue for a recession. The MEC has approached this process with inadequately defined goals from the start and honestly - it shows. (What would define a successful conclusion to this process?) Now we are swinging for a grand slam TA with an NMB that will not provide that level of support. And before any of y'all say it, yes I've called everyone under the sun and my opinion remains unchanged.
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:30 AM
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Time is not on our side despite what some of the louder voices say on here. The industry is past peak earnings and the economy is overdue for a recession. The MEC has approached this process with inadequately defined goals from the start and honestly - it shows. (What would define a successful conclusion to this process?) Now we are swinging for a grand slam TA with an NMB that will not provide that level of support. And before any of y'all say it, yes I've called everyone under the sun and my opinion remains unchanged.
And.... she’s back.
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