Qotsaautopilot

A 50% raise is a definite no but this is a career for most of us not a hobby

UNSUBSCRIBE

Thats just it, this isnt a ******* Hobby, its a profession. We do it to get paid

BusterBust

Let me grab my violin....if you get a raise with this contract and are a Captain making $200k+ a year, you’ll need to quit your job to stay home to watch the kids.

You’ll have a household bringing in close to a half mil a year between the two of you in a few years.

#firstworldproblems

Get a nanny and you’ll still have more money leftover versus this contract we have now.

NKSMCOTAKEOVER

I also like what we have in regards to schedule flexibility and there are many more out there. We sure as hell deserve more money and it shouldn't be at the expense of QOL givebacks.

SourGrapes

you want to give 'fly and it and grieve it', i mean 'alpa' PBS----------can you imagine the debacle? YEARS------hey alpa, how many years did it take to get red/green and transition conflict resolved??????

MajorTom

When I took the poll I remember thinking to myself which way should I answer these questions? I remember thinking there is something fishy with the wording here, I felt as though anyway I answer it could be interpreted as being in favor of PBS which I am definitely NOT in favor of.. I think the poll was a bit of a sham.

Do we have access to poll results and the questions that were asked?
I’d like to take a look at them again to see if I feel the same on a second look.
Anyone else feel like I do about the poll?

Regarding PBS..our route structure isn’t big enough, we don’t have a large enough pilot group and the type of flying we do (redeyes!) just does not support/justify PBS from a pilot perspective in my humble opinion.

Speaking for myself, if PBS must come to Spirit it’s going to take a huge amount of convincing from our union leaders that this can be done without giving up all the QOL we currently have for me to be convinced.

lowandslow

I have to disagree with the sentiment that we must accept PBS to get industry standard. We’ve already waited 2+ years just to get where we are now. I’m firmly in the Fire Water Burn (song title) camp. Don’t want to start over but not gonna work like AA for much lower pay, PS, retirement, travel bennies...I want a raise yesterday but if this management team thinks I’m willing to sell my soul for it they are mistaken.

Lincoln Osiris

That's just it, if we are going to have PBS it has to be industry standard pay END OF STORY. But I don't think it helps much by assuming anything less than that. If it's not industry standard pay, LTD, and scope, then easy no vote for everyone.

bajthejino

Why does anyone think that Spirit is on par with any of the big 4? Not the same business models. Not the same level of service. Not even the same customer base. If you guys are being offered JB rates and turn it down due to PBS then you're proving how crazy you are to even have gone to work at a place like Spirit to begin with. With the industry the way it is, vote with your feet and go make big 4 wages.

FLYBOYMATTHEW

Does the guy that picks up the trash in the ghetto make less than the guy picking up the trash in your gated community?