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Old 11-16-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW
Way to support your union 'brothers'! I'm sure you don't want the retired guys, guys on LTD or families of our deceased pilots to get any either.
Retired NO, LTD YES/NO, Famalies of deceased YES
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE
Retired NO, LTD NO, Famalies of deceased YES
Wow. At least you're honest about your greed. It's probably irrelevant because I bet we end up with a 'signing bonus' anyway.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW
Wow. Well, it's probably irrelevant because I bet we end up with 'signing bonus' anyway.
Im undecided about LTD, lol leaning yes
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Old 11-16-2017, 01:47 PM
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About RES DROPS:
There are ways to avoid what is considered "abuse" of middle RES drops.
Negotiate a reasonable limit of total drops per year and month, with a stricter allowance for middle days.
"Checker board" not allowed.

Incorrect that other airlines have no res drops.
Other airlines have better sick leave and more accommodating crew scheduling.

Eliminating RES drops is NOT the solution.
It will negatively impact reserve lines, staffing, open time and green days.
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:07 PM
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This is the only LTD we want. It's not cheap!!


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Old 11-16-2017, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW
Way to support your union 'brothers'! I'm sure you don't want the retired guys, guys on LTD or families of our deceased pilots to get any either.
that's not even close to the same thing as paying the guys who quit
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW
It sounds like the NC is contemplating excluding classes of pilots from retro (such as those who quit). Disgraceful and I hope that doesn't happen.
Excluding classes? No...They mentioned any pilot on property will be eligible and the list of criteria in the ALPA bylaws that dictate requirements to be met for any disbursement of a retro.


They mentioned people who quit won't be entitled to any fund. I agree 100%.

And then you try and spin it into being selfish and making it an LTD thing, and bring families of deceased pilots into the conversation. Thats pathetic and low. Spin, all spin.

I would have a huge problem if any retro payment was diluted to cut checks to people who pulled the ripcord and are not on property any longer. This isnt being selfish, its being logical.

But nice attempt at spin and pushing your anti-MEC/NC agenda.

Union Buster...add you to the list.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:36 PM
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And they were VERY clear, they were going by the ALPA handbook.....
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:41 PM
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I think that is the LTD that ExpressJet gas and it rocks.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BusterBust
Excluding classes? No...They mentioned any pilot on property will be eligible and the list of criteria in the ALPA bylaws that dictate requirements to be met for any disbursement of a retro.


They mentioned people who quit won't be entitled to any fund. I agree 100%.

And then you try and spin it into being selfish and making it an LTD thing, and bring families of deceased pilots into the conversation. Thats pathetic and low. Spin, all spin.

I would have a huge problem if any retro payment was diluted to cut checks to people who pulled the ripcord and are not on property any longer. This isnt being selfish, its being logical.

But nice attempt at spin and pushing your anti-MEC/NC agenda.

Union Buster...add you to the list.

No, you need to be on property when a TA is voted in. It's possible this could take another year or 2. I wouldn't turn down a job because Spirit may reach a settlement. If Spirit wanted to talk to the Union it would be done. Not interested.
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