Originally Posted by symbian simian

Quoted the troll without the screenname, hope that works for all


And that is why PBS is a "NO" for me. Most months the reserve grid is much more green than required before IOT starts so lines could have been build with more days off (and more soft time, or more days of for reserves) but the company wants us to drop the trips and lose the pay. Even with line bidding they will not honor the contract, and we need "at least twice a month", or "minimum 15/16 days off average for hard lines" added to the current language. PBS would be a can of worms were it would take the scheduling committee man-years every month to see if the company was following the contract.

As an example I was awarded a relief line (relief lines for all=PBS), I asked for a block of days off. In my award I had a block of reserve days exactly covering the days I wanted off, and all those days were green by +10 on the grid. Also at the beginning of the month I had a block of 5 days off were reserve was -10 red. I had the scheduling committee look at it and 3 guys with lower seniority then mine were awarded days off in my block of reserve. I ended up being able to get rid of the block but it was hours of work. Do we really want that?

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

Relief lines for all=PBS? That's just flat out wrong dude. I'm not advocating one way or the other, but if you're going to be against PBS, at least make your case factual. Our relief lines are purely pot luck because they are at the whim of crew planning. There's no computer input, so you're relying on human input to make sure it honors seniority regarding requests for days off.

Originally Posted by symbian simian

Our relief lines should not be pot luck for starters:
25.B.3.h ....Relief lines will be constructed so as to honor to the extent possible, the pilots request for days off, in seniority order....

I don't care if it is a human or a scheduler making the schedule, they were not following the contract and they should be following seniority. At least with line bidding it is easy to check if they do and past experience leads me not to want change.

I do not see where I am wrong in the comparison between PBS or RLS lines, adding a computer to the mix makes no difference.

Originally Posted by Mozekian

Yeah, and our payroll would be just as messed up if we had a real automated payroll tracking system vs 5 overworked employees, doing hand audits, in CrewPayNo difference, right?