Big Decision to Make
09-16-2017, 11:00 AM
#31
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after hearing the phone call the other day, i think we actually have to get rid of alpa. they are going to railroad us again. they do not have our best interests at heart. what's the difference, they told us we are never going to get a release anyway. if we let them, alpa is going to screw us again....enough is enough alpa
09-16-2017, 11:33 AM
#33
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I honestly think spirit is a long ways away from legacy pay...just saying, I hope I'm wrong though!
09-16-2017, 11:39 AM
#34
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1. We ask
2. They say no
3. Other airlines gets new contracts
4. We win because the ask just went up, plus FULL RETRO!!!
5. Company says NO!!
6. PROFIT!!!
7. ALPA has the upper hand
8. Rinse and repeat!!
6 = profit for the company if you did not compute
09-16-2017, 12:52 PM
#36
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Peace out.
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09-16-2017, 01:09 PM
#37
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You are right. I'm checking out for a while. The management trolls are full in force to try and convince us that this is the best and only offer. Our pilot group is smarter than that. We have a lot of fight left in us and we will prevail because management hates our current contract. They can't stand our work rules, transition conflict, reserve drops, line bidding and some of the other little QOL gems we currently have.
Peace out.
Peace out.
09-16-2017, 01:28 PM
#38
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so what. look at the other forums, contract discussions out the ass. why can't we talk about it? why is alpa trying to silence discussion. i'm not violating the restraining order you caused by posting names so S T F U
09-16-2017, 01:40 PM
#39
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You are right. I'm checking out for a while. The management trolls are full in force to try and convince us that this is the best and only offer. Our pilot group is smarter than that. We have a lot of fight left in us and we will prevail because management hates our current contract. They can't stand our work rules, transition conflict, reserve drops, line bidding and some of the other little QOL gems we currently have.
Peace out.
Peace out.
09-16-2017, 02:10 PM
#40
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Pretty sure your union is less concerned about you negotiating in public (let's be honest, who gives a F), than about its pilots having an open forum to discuss its discontent at their leaders, whom have led its members to a position of prolonged "negotiations" stalemate, that they realize will result in what you'd call a "substandard" contract anyhow years down the line.
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