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Old 10-05-2017, 11:23 AM
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Another CA buddy leaving for DELTA with a bunch other getting ready to Interview
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJoperator
Yea but rumor has it they are giving up signing bonuses.
What I saw is that the retention bonus is being rolled into hard pay. Which is better since bonuses can go away at anytime but hard contractual pay is more difficult if at all possible to go away. So its more like rolling bonus into pay, not really giving it up.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
What I saw is that the retention bonus is being rolled into hard pay. Which is better since bonuses can go away at anytime but hard contractual pay is more difficult if at all possible to go away. So its more like rolling bonus into pay, not really giving it up.
And the company withholds the right to still offer a signing bonus up to $20,000. Their proposed TA, if voted in (and if not), effectively raises the bar for everyone. Lookin at the rates, it would be possible for an FO to make a very livable wage by years 2/3. A Captain can easily make $100,000+ on years 3/4 pay if they desire. And a senior check airman could likely make close to what a junior CA at an LCC is making. Time for Spirit to get what you deserve. Management has been dragging their for far too long on you.
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:17 AM
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And the company withholds the right to still offer a signing bonus up to $20,000. Their proposed TA, if voted in (and if not), effectively raises the bar for everyone. Lookin at the rates, it would be possible for an FO to make a very livable wage by years 2/3. A Captain can easily make $100,000+ on years 3/4 pay if they desire. And a senior check airman could likely make close to what a junior CA at an LCC is making. Time for Spirit to get what you deserve. Management has been dragging their for far too long on you.

Exactly my point. More fuel for Spirit guys!
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:24 AM
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If you average the 1st two years of payrates Spirit only pays $1/hr more than Endeavor over the 1st two years. It's basically the same money to fly an RJ vs Airbus. That doesn't even take into account the $20,000 first year bonus at Endeavor.
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
If you average the 1st two years of payrates Spirit only pays $1/hr more than Endeavor over the 1st two years. It's basically the same money to fly an RJ vs Airbus. That doesn't even take into account the $20,000 first year bonus at Endeavor.
Good point.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
And the company withholds the right to still offer a signing bonus up to $20,000. Their proposed TA, if voted in (and if not), effectively raises the bar for everyone. Lookin at the rates, it would be possible for an FO to make a very livable wage by years 2/3. A Captain can easily make $100,000+ on years 3/4 pay if they desire. And a senior check airman could likely make close to what a junior CA at an LCC is making. Time for Spirit to get what you deserve. Management has been dragging their for far too long on you.
Seems like only yesterday that Endeavor nee Pinnacle was the Judas goat of the regional industry. You've come a long way, baby!
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:44 AM
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Lots of ex-9E people at Spirit. Glad it's working out for those who stayed after a decade of being the whipping boy of the regional world.
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Old 10-10-2017, 05:44 PM
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Anything interesting come out of the alpa call today? Or was it another "we will do a phone poll and then beg the company to consider some changes?"
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If that's not flame baiting I don't know what is.
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