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Old 09-28-2017, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chinookwinds
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NO...actually we do 5 FTD.s, 8 SIMS, a PRE CHECK, Checkride and then a LOFT
The failure rate was so high because of the previous peckerhead in charge.
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:01 AM
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Troll management/3rd party firm original post. No pilot would write something that big and detailed as a first post and then not come back and at least try to refute the points presented in two weeks.
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Old 09-28-2017, 11:10 AM
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The reason our failure rate is so high is because the level of experience of new hires, the hiring standard, the quality of applicants, and quantity of applicants has been appreciably in decline the last couple of years. Combine this with the most condensed possible training program allowed under part 121, a plethora of new or inexperienced instructors, and a relatively short upgrade time, and you arrive at our current predicament of having to overhire by "X" percent to actually staff the airline appropriately. Training isn't in the business of creating quality pilots here, they train to check boxes and fill seats.
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Old 09-28-2017, 12:51 PM
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6 NH failures just this month.
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 390SetBlue
6 NH failures just this month.
What do they do with them if they fail? Do they retrain or just fire them?
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Frontier does 5 FTD and 7 Sims. Checkride and then LOFT.

Pass rate is at least 90%
Ours is "at least" 90% as well, in fact it's 94%, which apparently is low (at least according to some).

Looks like our colleagues at NV get one more sim, but the program is otherwise similar, and the washout is apparently "non-existent".
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Old 09-28-2017, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Beans
What do they do with them if they fail? Do they retrain or just fire them?
Fired or allowed to resign.
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Old 09-28-2017, 05:16 PM
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“I’d fire those SOBs......you’re FIRED!”
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Old 09-28-2017, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
Fired or allowed to resign.
You would think that if they are that desperate they would just do a little extra training and retain some of them. Knowing they now have a recent 121 failure is an easy way to retain them for a few years. This place has turned into an absolute scum pit. Why do people go to Spirit? Honestly. If this is how they treat you off the bat doesent this strike an alarm? Then to see what they pay should be like a nuclear explosion of alarms. But 60 a month show up for the bendover inspection. Unreal. And we call ourselves professionals and show up at a place like this.
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:11 PM
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The info I got was ASA lost the Delta contract and we hiring all we can get from ASA. I'm sure they want to load up while the getting is good! 62 in the pipe line? LOL
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