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09-30-2017, 08:59 AM

#201

BillyBaroo

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Originally Posted by Planepirate

Iced till further notice

That is factually incorrect, so let's not mince words. We are not iced which is an action taken and enforced by the NMB. We are simply in a period where there has been no further scheduled mediated sessions.

09-30-2017, 09:31 AM

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SourGrapes

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Originally Posted by BillyBaroo

thanks, i've always had a problem with semantics

09-30-2017, 01:20 PM

#203

Planepirate

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Originally Posted by BillyBaroo

Correct: Negotiations broke off without an agreement and no future dates are scheduled. I was led to believe the term "iced" was to describe the situation we are currently in. It is not a term used by the NMB. So now I'm really confused lol

09-30-2017, 01:53 PM

#204

Dukeuno

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Yea I think Ice is a term used by pilots ( or that is what I was told). I have also heard the term "parked". From what I understand both these terms are used when there are not further dates set, and the pilot group is not released to self help. ( I could be wrong)

09-30-2017, 03:05 PM

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AllOva736

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Originally Posted by BillyBaroo

You're dumb. There is no enforced practice by the NMB known as "iced" so it seems you have no clue. Its a term made by pilots to basically describe a re-evaluate and cool down period for both parties but it is in no way a action that's enforced by the NMB. that said I think that rather or not it is a NMB practice, we are ( as pilots refer to ) on ice to try and force us to lower our expectations.

09-30-2017, 07:23 PM

#206

balakay

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

There’s no enforced action by the NMB? It seems your the dumb one. Its not the company nor the labor group thats puts us on ice or releases into self help, it’s the NMB...ergo they are the ones enforcing an action. And the rest of your sentiment beginning with “I think......” also lends creed to how much you know or understand, which looks minimal at best.

09-30-2017, 08:38 PM

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Tranquility

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Your vs. You're & Their vs. They're vs. There & Its vs. It's .... For the love of God people, if you want to come off as intelligent, please get those correct....

09-30-2017, 08:39 PM

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FLYBOYMATTHEW

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There's no need to relegate ourselves to name calling, but there's an obvious need to brush up on spelling, grammar, and sentence syntax. You stay classy San Diego!

09-30-2017, 08:59 PM

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Lincoln Osiris

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Well I guess we know what we will be doing for the next two years now. Name calling and correcting grammar on an internet forum lol.

09-30-2017, 09:33 PM

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SourGrapes

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Originally Posted by Tranquility

Your vs. You're & Their vs. They're vs. There & Its vs. It's .... For the love of God people, if you want to come off as intelligent, please get those correct....