I guess now we know
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The SAD part is I think Bendoraitus actually believes he offered us a great deal and we would've voted this offer in. There's a serious disconnect between him and the pilot group!! That's not newsworthy though. All Bendoraitus has done in this industry is destroy. NWA, Comair, our gate agents and ground crews....to name a few! Glad our MEC speaks for US!
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Oh it's not absurd or unreasonable at all that people are saying they won't agree to $500/hr with 50% DC if pbs or no changes to LTD is involved. Jeeesh, I wonder if anyone would underwrite a private LTD plan now that you can spend that extra 300K/yr you'll be making for premiums.
This management team has argued with us over every little thing in our current contract. Language that is black and white, that they agreed upon, is always being "interpreted differently" by them. Of course the way they interpret it always gives us the short end of the stick. Then we grieve it, and eventually we win a court ruling in our favor and the company is forced to stop. So then they find something else to "interpret differently". Let's just say we all have little faith and ZERO trust in our leaders. I have no doubt that pbs, when used properly, is not a bad system... but this is Spirit management we are talking about.
So when the company points out all the other airlines that have pbs and use it successfully, I'd like to respond with the words of our CFO: "yeah, but they run a good airline".
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You're right...what's wrong with me? I realize now I should only source my news from Breitbart and Drudge. They are truly the only reliable source of REAL news without any bias whatsoever.
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A ramper told me that the reason Spirit and Gojet were even talking with each other in the first place, was that Spirit was interested in buying Gojet. No-one was interested in selling and the end result was this flow program.
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No they haven't, which is exactly why you go for iron-clad language. 1) it keeps them honest and GUARANTEES they won't experiment with it, and 2) if they're honest about having no interest or need in code sharing, etc, then it should be a relatively cheap item to obtain, much like furlough protection in a time like this. After all, if they aren't going to need it, why would they not sign off on protective language?
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I'm a little lost on the "rumor hierarchy"... Are ramper rumors more or less credible than FA or mechanic rumors?
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I think it's safe to say that nobody wants to give up current scheduling practices for PBS. But if PBS is "industry standard" can we realistically attain insdustry standard pay without it? I hope so, but how?
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I'm not trolling just trying to understand the negotiating process. Serious question:
I think it's safe to say that nobody wants to give up current scheduling practices for PBS. But if PBS is "industry standard" can we realistically attain insdustry standard pay without it? I hope so, but how?
I think it's safe to say that nobody wants to give up current scheduling practices for PBS. But if PBS is "industry standard" can we realistically attain insdustry standard pay without it? I hope so, but how?
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