Super EZ E

Talk to the Transtates guys that work here. They have very strong opinions of Gojet.

FLYBOYMATTHEW

They would if it saved a nickel. They've outsourced nearly every other group at one point or another, even trained management personal as replacement dispatchers during their contract dispute a few years ago. Better to have the language in place and not need it than not have it and wish you did (i.e. profit-sharing).

AllOva736

This is very true, not just because of the past with TSA and Gojet but the people they have been hiring. I know first hand that gojet had guys in training that took 3 sims ( 6 hours ) just to get off of the gate in the sim and by that point at Spirit you are doing V1 cuts in BOG. That's the one thing I like about the training at NK, it is junk but weak pilots don't make it through so we have a good mix of capable people on the line.

Qotsaautopilot

Scope can mean all sorts of things. It spells out exactly what flying the company is required to use pilots on the spirit ALPA master seniority list. Currently our scope section allows unlimited codesharing as long as it doesn't lead to us furloughed. They could stagnate the list tomorrow and codeshare out any future growth if they want to and then use that as a bargaining chip to whipsaw you against the codesharing company. Norwegian, wow, air Asia, frontier all could be candidates. If they want to use RJs and think they can make money they will do that too. The possibilities are endless and economics may not make sense today but they might tomorrow and you have to protect that.

Jetblue codeshares with Hawaiian, Lufthansa, Emerites, cape air, and more. They probably have 30% more pilots, seniority, and widebodies if it weren't for unlimited codeshare.

The southwest pilots understand scope. Very very restrictive.

Simply put, if it's a ticket sold by and revenue generated by spirit airlines or a holding company it needs to be done on a spirit airplane with a spirit ALPA pilot. You have nothing but words and numbers on paper if scope isn't solid.

Scope also dictate what happens to the pilots in the event of a sale, aquistion, or merger.

NFjt

Can you share a source??

IWalkJun12

Lol. Let me tell ya about some of the train wrecks I've flown with recently.

SourGrapes

Don't be so upset, the national mediation board will release us in a few years.....hang in there........the next decade should be marginally better.....in the mean time, call or write the white house and ask the president to replace the national mediation board. as long as the anti labor obama appointees are in there we won't see a release for years. what we really need is some HOPE AND CHANGE....

Call the President
PHONE NUMBER
Comments: 202-456-1111

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Skypilotsv1984

Hahahahaha!!!

falcon2000aj

The SAD part is I think Bendoraitus actually believes he offered us a great deal and we would've voted this offer in. There's a serious disconnect between him and the pilot group!! That's not newsworthy though. All Bendoraitus has done in this industry is destroy. NWA, Comair, our gate agents and ground crews....to name a few! Glad our MEC speaks for US!

Judge Smails

On what planet do you live?

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