another week of nothing
07-16-2017, 08:56 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Yellow Bus
Posts: 355
If it takes a strike to get industry standard then it takes a strike. Industry standard is completely affordable and spirit can still be a ULCC AND ridiculously profitable. They will not shut this cash cow down to spite us. We are not being unreasonable. The longer they wait the higher the standard goes and the more retro they pay. We get it this cycle or we get it never. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to legally secure an industry standard deal. If that's a strike, so be it.
07-18-2017, 06:47 AM
#57
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: A320
Posts: 734
You guys get so upset!
There will be no industry standard contract. Ever. We aren't industry standard. We are ultra low cost standard. There's 3 of us. Spirit. Frontier. Allegiant. I knew this coming here. Management will NEVER respect us. Our work. our profession. And will NEVER pay us. Allegiant pay is what this place will offer without a strike. Planes will keep flying and they'll keep making record money. We all know Spirit is the cheapest penny-pinching airline ever. Come here because it's better than a regional (it's not really anymore) and move on to a real airline that will pay what we deserve. Simple as that. I knew this coming in. It's just a stepping stone which is exactly what management wants (they even call it juniority to keep costs low) I'm not even frustrated or upset being here anymore. I have zero expectations and none of us should. If you're "stuck here" or "too old" to go to any better airline. Then suck it up and quit complaining. It's not the "Spirit model" to be industy standard. Nothing about spirit is standard. It's all LOW TIER and way BELOW average. It will forever be a discount airline and as long as you work here, You/we are discount pilots. And yes I deserve/expect more. I'm fighting for it by trying like he^ll to get outta here
reality is a b*tch!
There will be no industry standard contract. Ever. We aren't industry standard. We are ultra low cost standard. There's 3 of us. Spirit. Frontier. Allegiant. I knew this coming here. Management will NEVER respect us. Our work. our profession. And will NEVER pay us. Allegiant pay is what this place will offer without a strike. Planes will keep flying and they'll keep making record money. We all know Spirit is the cheapest penny-pinching airline ever. Come here because it's better than a regional (it's not really anymore) and move on to a real airline that will pay what we deserve. Simple as that. I knew this coming in. It's just a stepping stone which is exactly what management wants (they even call it juniority to keep costs low) I'm not even frustrated or upset being here anymore. I have zero expectations and none of us should. If you're "stuck here" or "too old" to go to any better airline. Then suck it up and quit complaining. It's not the "Spirit model" to be industy standard. Nothing about spirit is standard. It's all LOW TIER and way BELOW average. It will forever be a discount airline and as long as you work here, You/we are discount pilots. And yes I deserve/expect more. I'm fighting for it by trying like he^ll to get outta here
reality is a b*tch!
P.S....Here's what one looks like in case you're unfamiliar:
Last edited by Judge Smails; 07-18-2017 at 06:58 AM.
07-19-2017, 07:23 PM
#59
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Yellow Bus
Posts: 355
07-20-2017, 02:58 AM
#60
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 270
Again, who are you to this group? Are you part of the pilot group or not? You encourage the pilots to accept bottom of the industry pay, refer to us as "you guys" and act like somehow your assistance to this group is a charity. If you aren't serious about helping this pilot group get the industry standard contract it deserves then please remain silent, but if you do in fact want to help don't treat it as something beneath you that you'll do if you happen to have time. This is an all-hands-on-deck situation and we need everyone to support industry standard and nothing less.
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