Tip the van drivers...its what we do
06-28-2017, 04:50 AM
#73
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07-06-2017, 01:17 PM
#74
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 194
Just a quick topic.....
We of course have our special cases that won't part with a buck to save their lives, all airlines have them....
However I have noticed, as have some people I have spoke to, a growing number of new hires who don't tip the van drivers.
So a note to new guys, we tip our drivers here. Those who are tipping a buck, thank you. Those that don't, find a buck a day. If you can't afford a $1, ask the Captain to spot you a buck or cover you, so that we don't stiff the van drivers.
I know the popular excuses, God knows they have been beat to death on these forums:
-They make more than I do
-This is work, I'm not on vacation
-I can't remember to take cash
-Im on first year pay and it sucks
But in the end, even our first year FAs tip the drivers the majority of the time and they are at what, $20 an hour.
Sure, you will have an occasional late pickup, rude driver, unsafe, etc....but the overwhelming amount of drivers are on time, (even when we are late) grab the bags and don't crash us into a wall because we sit and complain every car ride about our pay, company, management, contract etc...
As the saying goes, we tip the driver not for that ride, but for the next ride.
First year pay sucks, we get it, we all did it. We also all knew the pay when we signed on the dotted line. Hopefully soon enough $38.50 will be a nightmare of the past...
...until then, tip a buck. It has remained a buck for over a decade, some tip more, but find a buck a ride...it is really not that hard.
Thats it...one and done on these forums, just wanted to put that out there.
We of course have our special cases that won't part with a buck to save their lives, all airlines have them....
However I have noticed, as have some people I have spoke to, a growing number of new hires who don't tip the van drivers.
So a note to new guys, we tip our drivers here. Those who are tipping a buck, thank you. Those that don't, find a buck a day. If you can't afford a $1, ask the Captain to spot you a buck or cover you, so that we don't stiff the van drivers.
I know the popular excuses, God knows they have been beat to death on these forums:
-They make more than I do
-This is work, I'm not on vacation
-I can't remember to take cash
-Im on first year pay and it sucks
But in the end, even our first year FAs tip the drivers the majority of the time and they are at what, $20 an hour.
Sure, you will have an occasional late pickup, rude driver, unsafe, etc....but the overwhelming amount of drivers are on time, (even when we are late) grab the bags and don't crash us into a wall because we sit and complain every car ride about our pay, company, management, contract etc...
As the saying goes, we tip the driver not for that ride, but for the next ride.
First year pay sucks, we get it, we all did it. We also all knew the pay when we signed on the dotted line. Hopefully soon enough $38.50 will be a nightmare of the past...
...until then, tip a buck. It has remained a buck for over a decade, some tip more, but find a buck a ride...it is really not that hard.
Thats it...one and done on these forums, just wanted to put that out there.
That's what happens when you hire so many commuter (regional) pilots.
07-06-2017, 02:19 PM
#75
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 747 Captain (Ret,)
Posts: 807
Ref the court decision: I agree that the tips are incidentals meant to be covered by per diem payments from the company, and as such would not be deductible if you claim the city allowance as your deductible.
However, if you keep a log of your actual meal and other incidental expenses, and exceed your per diem payments, then it is all deductible including tips, taxi, haircuts and shoeshines when away from home for a long trip, (say a ten day trip to Asia). The general philosophy of the law is that you can deduct expenses you have for work when you are away from home that duplicate those that are already paid for at home. So, if you have a gym membership, and you pay a $10 fee for a single use of a gym away from home then that would be deductible. Trying to deduct a $300 green fee in Maui because you would only be paying $30 at home might be pushing it.
Don't forget to include union dues on form 2106. Make sure that your tax preparer understands the special rules for workers covered by DOT hours of service for meal and incidental expenses.
Joe
However, if you keep a log of your actual meal and other incidental expenses, and exceed your per diem payments, then it is all deductible including tips, taxi, haircuts and shoeshines when away from home for a long trip, (say a ten day trip to Asia). The general philosophy of the law is that you can deduct expenses you have for work when you are away from home that duplicate those that are already paid for at home. So, if you have a gym membership, and you pay a $10 fee for a single use of a gym away from home then that would be deductible. Trying to deduct a $300 green fee in Maui because you would only be paying $30 at home might be pushing it.
Don't forget to include union dues on form 2106. Make sure that your tax preparer understands the special rules for workers covered by DOT hours of service for meal and incidental expenses.
Joe
07-25-2017, 12:35 PM
#77
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 242
Tipping in this country is getting out of hand. Even the fast food restaurants such as Jersey Mikes are adding tips to the kiosk. I'd rather load my own bags. Tired of making change to get $1 bills. The DTW guys have to tip each way to and from work to airlines parking. Why are they forced to pay to get to work? I'm with the no tippers lets get rid of tipping in this country.
07-25-2017, 02:38 PM
#79
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: One with wings
Posts: 332
Service workers are low income by choice. Why should I subsidize their poor life choices? I chose to study, work several jobs simultaneously and take out loans to get to my current income level. And now that I'm successful I should spend part of my income to subsidize theirs. I already pay higher taxes to support their poor lifestyle choices. Come on, this is 'Merica! Everyone can be successful! Leaving a tip is no different than welfare. The more I tip the more I'm encouraging them to not better themselves.
Btw: the preceding was a joke, I Tip generously.
Btw: the preceding was a joke, I Tip generously.
07-25-2017, 02:44 PM
#80
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Posts: 1,735
That's one thing I cannot understand, some sandwich shop has a place to add a tip on the receipt, but Subway doesn't have it. What are they doing differently than the people who works at other fast food, for them to earn a tip?
