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Old 05-31-2017, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyondawall
Have you taken the time to talk to a rep, maybe read your email or go to a pub event? Maybe even call the ALPA attorneys?
You are clueless dude.
You are the clueless ones. Do you think the MEC is lying when they say to make the company work? Why did they roll over and allow the TRO to become permanent? They're scared, they need to resign!
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Old 05-31-2017, 04:04 PM
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Lemonade, where have you been all this time?
Not sure anybody is scared, they are just a LOT smarter than you...
What you are proposing would be the absolute DUMMEST thing we could do at this time.
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Originally Posted by Balder
Lemonade, where have you been all this time?
Not sure anybody is scared, they are just a LOT smarter than you...
What you are proposing would be the absolute DUMMEST thing we could do at this time.
You aren't going to convince him. It is impossible to reason with the unreasonable.

But we should all be scared. Our fly-by-night management team has painted themselves in a corner. There is a huge pilot staffing issue and an even larger pilot shortage on the horizon. It is only going to get worse if something isn't done soon to make this a place people where want to work.
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Agree with that. But this is not the first time Spirit has created a crisis for themselves.
It always seems to take a little bit of time before CEO/board realize how something they are doing is untenable.
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So let's not be scared, let's be MAD!!
At Bendo and his management team primarily. They are most likely misrepresenting facts to Fornaro and the board in the similar way they have misrepresented facts to the judge.
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Old 06-01-2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Planepirate
You aren't going to convince him. It is impossible to reason with the unreasonable.

But we should all be scared. Our fly-by-night management team has painted themselves in a corner. There is a huge pilot staffing issue and an even larger pilot shortage on the horizon. It is only going to get worse if something isn't done soon to make this a place people where want to work.
It won't be fixed either unless we get a contract. When regional F/O's are making more than first and second year Spirit F/O's, why would anyone come here? Management has turned this place into a stinking cesspool.
If management thinks for one second that suing the association for staffing issues is going to help them, they will only magnify the situation. Most of us here are tired, worn out fixing the daily issues here. Management says they want a contract that reflects the size of airline we are growing into? I want a management group that is capable of managing an airline. Obviously we are at a point that this management group is way over their collective heads. No confidence in this management and I would love for the BOD to know how inept they are.
I'm out of this place as soon as I can be.
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Old 06-02-2017, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Balder
Lemonade, where have you been all this time?
Not sure anybody is scared, they are just a LOT smarter than you...
What you are proposing would be the absolute DUMMEST thing we could do at this time.
DUMMEST.........BWAHAHAH
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Old 06-02-2017, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyondawall
I want a management group that is capable of managing an airline.
Quote of the day right there.
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
...Time for all the LEC Reps to step down.

They're lame ducks, we need strong leaders to dig out this mess.
How does this happen? I assume we'd have to put it up for a vote and these guys aren't going to let that happen easily. Do you know the bylaws?

This could have some legs. I am also tired of the endless capitulation.
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How does this happen? I assume we'd have to put it up for a vote and these guys aren't going to let that happen easily. Do you know the bylaws?

This could have some legs. I am also tired of the endless capitulation.
Hmm. Second quote ever and talking about undermining the union. Nice try troll
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