Tranquility

It was interpretation from the email that the NMB jointly made that decision with the NC.

falcon2000aj

It's going to be interesting. After transition, training and vacation, we will have over 3,000 hours of open time! Cue, the all vacations are cancelled email!

Flyondawall

Lol, I can't wait to see what the company comes up with to blame it on then.

ropestart

It will come out eventually that we had nothing to do with this fiasco. We knew in April that May was going to be jacked up with transition and red/Green Day's. We can already see that June will be short as well! Doesn't take a rocket scientist or a judge to figure that out. Let's abide by the TRO, the rest will happen on its own. Just be safe and do our jobs.

Scoop

Well if the above is true then I cannot think of anything stupider than a SPA Chokers website and attempts at Pilot intimidation.

If the operation was going to fall apart on its own, and it appears it did, Then why give your company any ammunition to fire at you? Why give them an excuse?

I don't know if it is too late but you guys should all stop posting anything about this stuff. We at DAL were sued and lost, AMR was sued and lost. Was any of the above fair - Hell no but that is our system.

If management is going to let the operation fall apart on its own then be quiet, get out of the way, and let it happen. Do not post material which can and will be used against you.

I said it before and I will say it again - the market is on your side. You guys will do very well in the long run despite hitting some apparently self induced speed bumps on the way.

Good Luck to the Spirit Pilot group!

Scoop

IAJETCAPT

What this guy said.....

todhog2

Scoop, you're a class act. What are you doing on APC?

frotter

Add to that, it's evident that much needed managerial energy was being divested to documenting a community forum for sharing VIEWPOINTS, with no hard data about anyone's BEHAVIOR. Rather than spending the hours it must have taken to write legal statements, maybe Spirit's mgt should have been.....managing?? Way to efficiently use your 3700.00 an hour pay rate to benefit your shareholders and board members.

an225flyer

I would love to grab a beer sometime and of course it will be my treat..I would love to hear your opinions on how to improve this industry..if you are ever in the south Florida area you name the place I'll be there. That is how people in my position make things better..by listening to YOU. Everyone is so quick to criticize the decisions made and as leaders we are not here to make friends we are here to run a successful and profitable business so you and your colleagues can provide for and support you family. With that objective in mind there are a lot of good companies out there that have created a very positive work environment for a lot of people such as yourself..so when someone like Bob comes into a company like Spirit he has to figure out how to improve your overall performance as a company and since nobody likes change he is met with hostility and skepticism but let's look at the numbers..customer complaints are down considerably, OTP is trending upwards..these are two metrics that are essential to profitability and reliability..it may not seem like it right now it may seem hopeless but there is light at the end of the tunnel..you will get a new agreement but you can't expect to get an industry leading deal overnight and give up nothing in return. I genuinely hope I'm wrong but decades of experience tell me I'm not.

As for my low post count..even you had 8 posts at one time..maybe you will change your opinion one day when my post count reaches whatever is considered an acceptable level here..but in the meantime I challenge you to keep an open mind when someone with relevant experience goes advice..I don't put you down for sharing your opinion so try to give me the same courtesy.

an225flyer

Bob doesn't sign my paycheck anymore. I do think he has done a lot for the industry as a whole but he is not perfect either. Make no mistake I do not agree with every decision he has ever made but he has certainly made some improvements at Spirit. He also negotiated a deal giving every single AirTran employee a job at one of the best airlines in the country if they wanted it.

But yes he has also made some mistakes along the way too. But to imply that he is paying me to post my opinion? Really? How much did your union president pay you to post your opinion?

I can only hope that anyone who participated in the intimidation of your own work group realizes it was not done anonymously and will not fly at the airlines you are applying to. As leaders in the airline industry we are all in contact with one another and all meet regularly to discuss things such as this. So just be prepared to deal with the reputation you have created.