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05-31-2017, 02:38 PM

#61

FLINT

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What is AQP?

Did Hatchet get fired or asked to resign?

06-06-2017, 09:27 PM

#62

2992set

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there is no work underway to move toward AQP? I've only known AQP at my current job, but from what I hear, guys prefer it over traditional recurrent/PCs

06-07-2017, 09:17 AM

#63

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The one guy hired to do aqp quit. My experience is it's much more learning and less checking.

06-07-2017, 11:27 AM

#64

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

The one guy hired to do aqp quit. My experience is it's much more learning and less checking.

damn that sucks..every quarter we do online CBTs so its a good systems refresher, then our SIM and oral is pretty straight forward some v1 cuts and then Line oriented experience, some scenario they run and see how we handle it..i don't think you can technically fail as in showing up on your cert as a PC fail, but it would be in the training departments records for the need for retraining., but I've only been at my job since AQP was already started so I have nothing to compare it to

06-12-2017, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyBoat

I understand at the end of the day he wants to teach, but when you tear someone down with your delivery, the person does not learn.

Perhaps some are easier torn down than others...

10-01-2017, 07:13 PM

#66

Bikingscott

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Which one is The Hatchett?
The guy that yells all the time in CSI and the sim, or
The older guy that has a twin that works here too?

I've dealt with both the above, and was fine.

10-02-2017, 06:11 AM

#67

FlyingOkra

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bikingscott

Which one is The Hatchett?
The guy that yells all the time in CSI and the sim, or
The older guy that has a twin that works here too?

I've dealt with both the above, and was fine.

His name isn't far off from the nickname.

10-08-2017, 09:45 PM

#68

Squeaky banana

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Same post, different thread, but something to think about...

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10-09-2017, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeaky banana

Same post, different thread, but something to think about...

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I would love to find out the real failure rate.
Also, the reason for guys washing out.
Are guys showing up unprepared (not knowing the flows etc)?

Im trying to get the real feel of the new hire training at Spirit.

10-09-2017, 05:04 AM

#70

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Originally Posted by mxaexm

The real failure ailure right is nearly 10% and the reason?, well....................... think about. Our training hasn't changed, neither has the airplane we fly. We pretty much have the same instructors (who are all AWESOME, I genuinely mean that) so whats left?

that's right, the experience of the new hire. Guys with low time etc.............. Its really not that complicated, when regional airlines pay more and have a flow/interview opportunity, why would someone come to an airline like Spirit? High Fives don't pay the mortgage.....................