Our NewHire Failure rate hovering above 5%
10-16-2017, 06:38 AM
#122
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: Bus FO
Posts: 35
They used to send out a cd. Now its just access to a website, with no panels to learn flows, etc. you can just read about them.
10-16-2017, 07:15 AM
#123
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Airplanes
Posts: 1,405
And not to defend them but this is Spirit. You have to buy/bring your own coffee in training. You have to buy your own uniforms. They would just as soon kick you in the teeth than give you a hand. This place is the lowest of low and for the life of me can't understand why anyone would come here or even stay here. I don't know anyone here that isn't in some way looking to leave and move on. Even senior (10+ year) guys/gals are looking to dump this place like a bad habit.
I wish I could say that this place has potential, future, blah blah blah but I can't even muster that level of optimism anymore.
If you want to come here then good luck but one might look at all the rats jumping ship before signing on as a new deckhand.
10-17-2017, 03:18 AM
#124
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: Bus FO
Posts: 35
If that's the case then no, that isn't correct. A guy should have at a minimum two weeks and ideally at least a month to start looking things over.
And not to defend them but this is Spirit. You have to buy/bring your own coffee in training. You have to buy your own uniforms. They would just as soon kick you in the teeth than give you a hand. This place is the lowest of low and for the life of me can't understand why anyone would come here or even stay here. I don't know anyone here that isn't in some way looking to leave and move on. Even senior (10+ year) guys/gals are looking to dump this place like a bad habit.
I wish I could say that this place has potential, future, blah blah blah but I can't even muster that level of optimism anymore.
If you want to come here then good luck but one might look at all the rats jumping ship before signing on as a new deckhand.
And not to defend them but this is Spirit. You have to buy/bring your own coffee in training. You have to buy your own uniforms. They would just as soon kick you in the teeth than give you a hand. This place is the lowest of low and for the life of me can't understand why anyone would come here or even stay here. I don't know anyone here that isn't in some way looking to leave and move on. Even senior (10+ year) guys/gals are looking to dump this place like a bad habit.
I wish I could say that this place has potential, future, blah blah blah but I can't even muster that level of optimism anymore.
If you want to come here then good luck but one might look at all the rats jumping ship before signing on as a new deckhand.
In my personal experience, I have flown with very senior guys who are happy with Spirit. I’m sorry to say, I have not flown with anyone that shares your opinion. Yes they all agree on various issues that will improve this place. But overall, the guys and ladies I have flown with are content, and thats not to say they don’t want better.
10-17-2017, 06:34 AM
#125
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 323
It's not like the 'Bus is exactly classified. There is plenty of material available for study out there.
10-17-2017, 10:49 AM
#127
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: A320
Posts: 98
10-17-2017, 12:56 PM
#130
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 323
I didn't necessarily mean flows, I was more talking about systems, automation philosophy and the like. There is plenty of material available out there for that. For example, there is an oral exam video from UAL that I, for one, found very helpful. SmartCockpit - Airline training guides, Aviation, Operations, Safety has all the systems stuff. I'm not saying NK couldn't do more to help new hires, my point is more that one can prepare him/herself better, should one so desire. Now, I'll fully admit to being somewhat of an airplane nerd who's spent time on smartcockpit just for fun, but still...
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