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Old 03-13-2017, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedMonster
The fact that its a 60%-80% raise only means they have benefitted from below market labor rates for years, so time to pay.
And it's higher than that for some longevities. Wasn't that the average of all our longevities in each seat.

Average 80% for FOs and average 60% for captains. Some might need 35% and some might need 85%
First year FOs need over 100%.

This is just pay not including retirement

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Old 03-14-2017, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NFjt
Any info on why?
Apparently Bendo showed around 3PM. The mediator was also late due to her inbound flight. Idk the rest of the details other than that.
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SkywardAZ
Apparently Bendo showed around 3PM. The mediator was also late due to her inbound flight. Idk the rest of the details other than that.
from the meeting last night down here thats not the case. No Bendo and they showed up as the negotiators were basically walking out the door for the day.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
Anyone else have issues with the NC video? Mine got about 2-3 minutes in and froze.
I downloaded it, which was a pain. But then it was perfect. If you have the patience to let it just sit there and buffer then it'll play with some big pauses. It'll keep playing if you give it time.

I feel like Matyas imitated me in how I feel any more. Them no showing or showing up seriously late is not ok. It goes to show where we stand on their priorities. Bendo showing up late is almost prophetic.

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Old 03-14-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
does it really matter if they do show up? i mean, you realize we are not going to have a contract for several years right? that is the process, so what's the difference if they actually show up? a release will start to get serious at 5 years so what is that, August 2020 right?
We could effect change if we all were on the same page!
What a#oles are still putting themselves on the standing available list? What are all these guys answering their phones for?
We should be showing our displeasure with our only real power. STOP BAILING THESE GUYS OUT.
Too many people can't pass up that JA because some other guy is gonna take it anyway so it might as well be me. You're the problem. (Not you specifically Grapes)
Perhaps June will provide us another opportunity to show how ****ed we really are. Question now is, is the union going to lead or just keep telling us they're mad too?
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
We could effect change if we all were on the same page!
What a#oles are still putting themselves on the standing available list? What are all these guys answering their phones for?
We should be showing our displeasure with our only real power. STOP BAILING THESE GUYS OUT.
Too many people can't pass up that JA because some other guy is gonna take it anyway so it might as well be me. You're the problem. (Not you specifically Grapes)
Perhaps June will provide us another opportunity to show how ****ed we really are. Question now is, is the union going to lead or just keep telling us they're mad too?

Name one airline who got a contract because of pilots not picking up open time. Name one airline who got a contract due to a pilot job action. Zero..... the company has the upper hand period
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
Name one airline who got a contract because of pilots not picking up open time. Name one airline who got a contract due to a pilot job action. Zero..... the company has the upper hand period
United. The so-called "summer of pain", in 2000.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
Anyone else have issues with the NC video? Mine got about 2-3 minutes in and froze.
I went to the Union's facebook page and played it from there. It actually pops up on YouTube without any delay at all.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
Name one airline who got a contract because of pilots not picking up open time. Name one airline who got a contract due to a pilot job action. Zero..... the company has the upper hand period
AA also did it. You're very misinformed if you think it doesn't help!
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
AA also did it. You're very misinformed if you think it doesn't help!
How long after 9-11 concessions did it take to get a contract for both AA and United. ..I'm sure the pilots were very happy and playing by the rules...i think u are misinformed... I'm sure both mergers had zero to do with it...it was all slow taxi...
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