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Old 03-04-2017, 09:30 AM
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That's a lot of nose up trim...
Lol. Jeeeeeeeebus
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:37 AM
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No room to tanker excess fuel.
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AldiAirbus
We need pbs like we need a raging case of the Herps. With PBS we will lose days off for transition AND will lose days off accrued from touching vacation days. Those days do add up to a lot of time with family/friends. Once it's gone, it's gone and we cannot get that back. Why give anything up? Spirit CAN afford it. Although, I highly doubt Spirit could afford the amount of money it would take for me to vote yes on anything attached to PBS.
I hope people are doing their part to educate (not berate) others on the hazards of PBS and those who are willing to take pay cuts for work rules.
This is NOT a regional. It's our time to sack up.
Spirit is one of if not the most profitable in the US and can be profitable in a down market with high fuel costs? Many pilots here see no reason we can not get wages in line or MORE than the other majors along with keeping line bidding. I will not say no until I see the TA, but if we lose line bidding, green/red and go to PBS my vote and many others is most likely a NO!! I worked at two airlines with PBS, besides losing the vacation with days off on both sides the pilots rarely got what they wanted, etc...... it was horrible. Spirit management would certainly take advantage of PBS and the pilots quality of life would go down dramatically. .Line bidding, profit sharing, higher 401k, United/Delta +1 and more is very attainable for Spirit in the current market. If Spirit wants to survive they need to meet the pilots demands as Spirit pilots are the ones in the drivers seat and need to concede nothing.
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:53 AM
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I have no doubt that if we voted in PBS that Spirit management would violate every single rule and parameter and force us to arbitrate each and every issue. Now, imagine waiting 2-3 years for an arbitration judgement while being hosed every single month for years. PBS is a NO.
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphWiggum
absolutely pathetic
Can't see, what was it?
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:02 AM
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To whoever took my phone number of this thread and had 12 different moving companies call me with quotes for a move from NJ-FL.

Well played.




Also, 13 cancellations today
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Timeismoney
Any deal they give us will cost them. They are going to try anything to slow us down until they absolutely have to pay up.
And once they do: FULL RETRO
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by thor55
Spirit is one of if not the most profitable in the US and can be profitable in a down market with high fuel costs? Many pilots here see no reason we can not get wages in line or MORE than the other majors along with keeping line bidding. I will not say no until I see the TA, but if we lose line bidding, green/red and go to PBS my vote and many others is most likely a NO!! I worked at two airlines with PBS, besides losing the vacation with days off on both sides the pilots rarely got what they wanted, etc...... it was horrible. Spirit management would certainly take advantage of PBS and the pilots quality of life would go down dramatically. .Line bidding, profit sharing, higher 401k, United/Delta +1 and more is very attainable for Spirit in the current market. If Spirit wants to survive they need to meet the pilots demands as Spirit pilots are the ones in the drivers seat and need to concede nothing.
PBS has nothing to do with red/green. Red green is not for sale. It's our number one qol rule and we fought for 3 years to get it back when they illegally stole it
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
PBS has nothing to do with red/green. Red green is not for sale. It's our number one qol rule and we fought for 3 years to get it back when they illegally stole it
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
PBS has nothing to do with red/green. Red green is not for sale. It's our number one qol rule and we fought for 3 years to get it back when they illegally stole it
Never said red/green had anything to do with PBS???.....Simply no to PBS or losing red/green.
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