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Old 04-10-2017, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Master
I think Hawaiian would be a better fir. Spirit is an entirely airbus fleet. Southwest is known for an all inclusive pricing structure while Spirit is the exact opposite of that (and their customers are used to bare bones prices and cramming as much as they can into their personal item).

Hawaiian offers them access to a stated near term goal (routes to Hawaii), and would ensure that their expansion into the Hawaiian market is quick and strong. It also opens up Hawaiian's routes to Asia (Japan, Australia, etc). With Boeing's production of the 767 assured for several years to come (767-400) this would be a lucrative option if a fleet expansion was on the horizon too.

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767-400 is no longer offered for sale. Only a freighter version is in production.

What Hawaiian does is brand unique and really promotes the Hawaiian vacation from the moment you step on the jet.

If SWA really wants to "open up Asia/Pacific access" they'd be better off just flying to HNL and codesharing with JETSTAR as they offer a similar product on a long range basis.
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Hawaiian's 767's are old--their Airbuses are newer and nicer. Speaking of Airbuses they are buying 321 Neos because everybody else is flying narrow bodies from the west coast.
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If I was a betting man, and I am, I'd bet 2 beers(IPAs) that SW purchases a stake in Copa.
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Originally Posted by hoover
If I was a betting man, and I am, I'd bet 2 beers(IPAs) that SW purchases a stake in Copa.

The scope language in the new CBA severely limits what the company would be able to do with such a stake. I sincerely doubt it would be worth it to them.


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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
The scope language in the new CBA severely limits what the company would be able to do with such a stake. I sincerely doubt it would be worth it to them.


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Wouldn't they virtually HAVE to fold them into our airline?
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How could they even do that? It's a foreign company. Would be like Lufthansa buying Frontier and operating a Frontier base in Denver with German pilots.


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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
How could they even do that? It's a foreign company. Would be like Lufthansa buying Frontier and operating a Frontier base in Denver with German pilots.


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I don't know. My understanding is that it's much easier for a U.S. carrier to buy a foreign airline than vice versa, but again....I'm not educated on the topic. Perhaps someone who is can chime in.
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But even if we did I think we'd have to fold them in and then that begs all sorts of questions such as would their pilots be allowed to be U.S. based if they don't have a right to work in the States. Seems like a huge headache for SWA.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
But even if we did I think we'd have to fold them in and then that begs all sorts of questions such as would their pilots be allowed to be U.S. based if they don't have a right to work in the States. Seems like a huge headache for SWA.

Wouldn't give it much thought. Won't happen. Neither will Hawaiian.


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With the airlines at record profits (the top few) is it going to be game on to bludgeon each other, push out the weak and grow organically.
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