Southwest questions
04-08-2017, 05:27 PM
#351
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It's just not the SWA way. Other than a few seasonal routes and vacation destinations, our schedule is the same every single day with some variation on weekends and holidays. Customers depend on that and love it. We can't do daily service like that and expect the revenue required to keep an airplane on that route.
We do a lot of Vegas flying from smallish cities like MAF, AMA, etc, but they are all through flights from big stations.
Have you ever flown Allegiant? When they cancel, the next flight is in 2-5 days. They are hub and spoke with planes sitting in Vegas on off days, we are mostly point to point with planes sitting for four hours at night at a hundred overnight stations.
It's like the guys here that wonder why we don't do vacation charter flying. I am one hundred percent certain that our network planning folks have taken a look at that and discarded it as a bad idea. This company has a lot of warts, but how it runs its domestic network is pretty freaking good.
We do a lot of Vegas flying from smallish cities like MAF, AMA, etc, but they are all through flights from big stations.
Have you ever flown Allegiant? When they cancel, the next flight is in 2-5 days. They are hub and spoke with planes sitting in Vegas on off days, we are mostly point to point with planes sitting for four hours at night at a hundred overnight stations.
It's like the guys here that wonder why we don't do vacation charter flying. I am one hundred percent certain that our network planning folks have taken a look at that and discarded it as a bad idea. This company has a lot of warts, but how it runs its domestic network is pretty freaking good.
04-10-2017, 12:52 PM
#353
Strike averted!
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Position: B737
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The new reservation system will give SWA lots of leverage in schedule and routing. Since we don't do hub/spoke, we can pull a route much faster if it isn't producing. My bet is we start seeing redeye flights from the west coast bases to link up with international departures from the east coast, and expansion into Canada and South America (and Hawaii). The new res system is able to work with Canadian dollars, a hurdle to be overcome (I personally heard Gary talk about that during newhire training).
If I were an airline tycoon, I'd bet my next contract on codesharing and scope. If SWA is still making the money in a few years, my guess is they will throw money at the pilot group in exchange for code/scope vs. an acquisition.
I would bet Hawaiian.
If I were an airline tycoon, I'd bet my next contract on codesharing and scope. If SWA is still making the money in a few years, my guess is they will throw money at the pilot group in exchange for code/scope vs. an acquisition.
I would bet Hawaiian.
04-10-2017, 12:54 PM
#354
Furloughed Again?!
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Position: Boeing 737
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My bet is we start seeing redeye island turns. Take off from BWI around 10pm, fly down to SJU, turn and come back in time for the morning push.
If there is a merger or buyout I'd bet on Spirit. No way Hawaiian.
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If there is a merger or buyout I'd bet on Spirit. No way Hawaiian.
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04-10-2017, 01:29 PM
#357
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Hawaiian offers them access to a stated near term goal (routes to Hawaii), and would ensure that their expansion into the Hawaiian market is quick and strong. It also opens up Hawaiian's routes to Asia (Japan, Australia, etc). With Boeing's production of the 767 assured for several years to come (767-400) this would be a lucrative option if a fleet expansion was on the horizon too.
Just my two cents!
04-10-2017, 03:53 PM
#360
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I think Hawaiian would be a better fir. Spirit is an entirely airbus fleet. Southwest is known for an all inclusive pricing structure while Spirit is the exact opposite of that (and their customers are used to bare bones prices and cramming as much as they can into their personal item).
Hawaiian offers them access to a stated near term goal (routes to Hawaii), and would ensure that their expansion into the Hawaiian market is quick and strong. It also opens up Hawaiian's routes to Asia (Japan, Australia, etc). With Boeing's production of the 767 assured for several years to come (767-400) this would be a lucrative option if a fleet expansion was on the horizon too.
Just my two cents!
Hawaiian offers them access to a stated near term goal (routes to Hawaii), and would ensure that their expansion into the Hawaiian market is quick and strong. It also opens up Hawaiian's routes to Asia (Japan, Australia, etc). With Boeing's production of the 767 assured for several years to come (767-400) this would be a lucrative option if a fleet expansion was on the horizon too.
Just my two cents!
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