Chris99

I hear you. Nobody knows the formula. They reviewed my app at OBAP last year and said everything looks good; just wait for the call...

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Smooth at FL450

Rocky knew me by first name after going to so many job fairs...then at the new hire dinner he saw me and said "Hey you finally got the call!" No idea what took so long, but hang in there and it'll work out.

PowerShift

The application programs used by the airlines are the best thing since sliced bread as far as HR is concerned.

It removes the human element from selection, and the human connection to the applicant. "The computer chooses".

All HR has to do is define a set of standards or "score" to sift through the pile and spit out those that meet the parameters.

Some examples (not real, just for example)

Four year degree 4 points.
Greater then 5000 TT 3 points
737 type 2 points
Military flight experience 8 points
Prior 121 time 4 points
Chief pilot 3 points
Safety Officer 2 points
Check Airman 4 points
1 violation -2 points
2 violations -15 points
1 check ride failure during primary training -1 point
2 check ride failures during primary flight training -5 points
1 - 121/135 check ride failure -5 point
2 - 121/135 check ride failures - 20 points

You can't ask someone their age on an app, but it can be calculated (to a high degree of accuracy) from using your high school graduation year. Most are 17-18-19 when they graduate.

Or for college, how many years it took you to complete a four year degree. You input all those dates and times.

Ask the program for applicants with a 25 point score, with a 4 yr degree that was completed in 4yrs (says motivation or on target), and an average of 6 yrs at each employer (says stability).

Bingo, out comes your perfect applicant.

The field of human resources is (as we say here Yuuuge). Billions of dollars have been spent in America to gauge, sort, and predict a potential employees ability for success with a company.

Looking at successful employees (how they perform, get along with others, sick time used, etc etc) all one has to do is compile a data base of statistics of those people. How long did it take them to complete a 4yr degree, do they have a masters, what is their average time with an employer (18 yrs experience with 3 employers = avg 6 yrs). What is their average credit score? See where this is going.
Corporate America has this Intel, and so do the airlines.

Only pilots think in terms of "righteous stuff". The number of type ratings, hours flown, etc etc. Airlines or any company for that matter want the statistically profiled recipe for a successful person.

Just another look at this from a different perspective.

Ohlsan

Ok looking over the pilot credentials site, I noticed a block for FEX written, does anyone have experience with the test or insight on if it may have helped your application. I am trying to check every box possible

flyguy81

FedEx uses pilot credentials. Once upon a time they required the FEX written, similar to SWA requiring the type. FedEx no longer requires it as they no longer have Flight Engineers. It's also on airline apps along with a check box for the 737 type. I'm guessing so other airlines can see if you're "interested" in possibly working somewhere other than the airline you're applying for.

Squallrider

How long typically to get MDW?

oldcarpilot

With things moving so quickly right now only a few months. That should remain true for most of the year. The only base that is taking much more than a few months is ATL.

Squallrider

Nice thanks! I'm close to the 1000 tpic then we will see. MDW is down the road so a pretty good pro.

Doc1010

I'm attempting to tighten up a few items on my SWA Pilot Credentials application. I'm curious what the preferred method would be on my employment history. For a number of years (4+), I was essentially a contract pilot, but primarily so for only a handful of entities. Short story long, one entity used us "contractors" as most would use employed pilots (the company saw the light or the department of labor stepped in, not sure which). I also was 1099'd by a couple other entities during those years. The complicated part is a few of the contacts I flew for required I be a W-2 employee of said company. Through this span, am I better off listing each company as individual "employment history" line items even if the employment was short term (my employment history would be considerably longer with short stays at each company) or just a broad-cast net stating that I contracted/was self-employed for multiple entities, all of which I can provide, at minimum, tax documentation for? I don't want my application to appear as though I was constantly job hopping but I don't want it to look questionable, either.

Tom fooloery

Anyone know when the next Db's are?Also how far out are they scheduling classes?