View Poll Results: TA2 vote poll
I am leaning YES
39
36.45%
I am leaning NO
49
45.79%
I am still undecided.
19
17.76%
Voters: 107. You may not vote on this poll
Read the TA, watched the roadshow. I vote...
#31
Yes to no
I have to admit I was a 90% yes vote yesterday and today I've flipped. I'm so sick of lagging behind our legacy pilot peers AND our own employees. Why is it the company has no problem paying FA's and dispatchers top pay and they're not even endangered species?! I firmly believe if JW recommends a no vote that TA2 will go down in flames. g k has royally screwed this up (like the fuel hedges) and needs to own it.
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 280
The best part of all this is. If TA2 passes, we've got the company by the balls WRT Section 1 AND they have to pay us as if we gave it to them on a silver platter. If TA2 fails, then we get a crack at platform plus ancillaries and clean up A LOT of language. We have more leverage than we had even last week. God Bless Jon Weaks!
#33
#34
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
The best part of all this is. If TA2 passes, we've got the company by the balls WRT Section 1 AND they have to pay us as if we gave it to them on a silver platter. If TA2 fails, then we get a crack at platform plus ancillaries and clean up A LOT of language. We have more leverage than we had even last week. God Bless Jon Weaks!
#35
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 42
I wondered why JW and CM were so excited at the announcement of having an AIP that fell short of platform.
Now having researched this till cross eyed, I'm wondering if the company's failure to include the secret 50 airline MOU of TA1 was why they were so happy in that video.
So as I see it now...if TA2 passes...we have them for the next four years. But who thinks the company won't just violate it anyhow.
Possibly GK and Co sweeten the deal this week.
And possibly if this TA2 fails, we might still have huge leverage but rolling the dice with regard to NMB putting us on ice (oh darn) and possibly economy tanks.
So do we lock the leverage in now? And milk it for four years?
Waiting to hear from SWAPA...
Now having researched this till cross eyed, I'm wondering if the company's failure to include the secret 50 airline MOU of TA1 was why they were so happy in that video.
So as I see it now...if TA2 passes...we have them for the next four years. But who thinks the company won't just violate it anyhow.
Possibly GK and Co sweeten the deal this week.
And possibly if this TA2 fails, we might still have huge leverage but rolling the dice with regard to NMB putting us on ice (oh darn) and possibly economy tanks.
So do we lock the leverage in now? And milk it for four years?
Waiting to hear from SWAPA...
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
The NMB can ice us all they want. Who cares? We don't need them to resume talks with the company. If it gets voted down I think the company will $7it themselves. I just hope they really sweeten the pot instead.
#37
I'm with wakmaster on this one. Also who's to say we have to agree to anymore than we have. As in this secret mou? It's their job to get us to vote yes. Not ours.
BTW if they did put that MOU into section I'd probably vote no regardless of the increases in pay. For me organic growth is most important.
BTW if they did put that MOU into section I'd probably vote no regardless of the increases in pay. For me organic growth is most important.
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 677
Will be very interesting to hear JW's next update after today's meeting with GK. JW absolutely has the power to sway this vote in either direction and I'm sure GK knows this. Nice to see our union finally playing chess, not checkers.
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