Southwest Hiring Info 2016 - Page 34 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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Braniff DC8 , 01-31-2016 07:45 PM

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Zap, are you Obi-Wan Kenobi??? A man wise beyond his years!

Or who are you so wise with flint and tinder? Some call you Tim?

#332

Braniff DC8 , 01-31-2016 07:49 PM

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http://youtu.be/aZJZK6rzjns.

This video stars Zapbranigan.

#333

ZapBrannigan , 01-31-2016 08:27 PM

Furloughed Again?!

I'm confused...

#334

Bluesideup1 , 02-01-2016 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

I just want to throw out there, that today's Prom Queen is not necessarily tomorrow's Miss Universe. Our industry is very cyclical.

In the mid/late 1990s - UAL was the captain of the cheerleaders. TWA and AWA were popular too.

Around 1999 UAL still ran the roost, with DAL, AA, and USAir close behind.

After 9/11 when every pilot at USAir was a captain at one point in their career, folks left her in favor of SWA, JetBlue, and ATA. United, Delta, and AA dumped everyone... a decade long furlough. Sometimes they would get back with you for a little while, only to dump you again. Fickle little wench.

After being furloughed some people fell for that cute rebound chick in the library: Vanguard, Eastwind, Pro Air, National, Skybus... but her folks moved away by around 2010.

Now UAL, DAL, and AA are competing for homecoming queen again. She will always be beautiful but very high maintenance and quick to dismiss you if she sees a better deal come along (force majeur)

Nobody has a crystal ball and any prognostications with a time horizon of greater than 5 years in this business are foolhardy guesses made by pilots who aren't particularly good students of our industry.

I miss 1999 when we all just applied everywhere, went to the first major that called, and then argued on Flightinfo about whose was better even though none of us really made a "choice" in where we went.

Great post and about sums it up pretty well.

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Std Deviation , 02-01-2016 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

Pro Air, National, Skybus... but her folks moved away.

Pro Air. There's a blast from the past. Four airplanes. Detroit City Airport. Dodge gunfire while you board. Few people remember that one.

#336

Bigwing , 02-01-2016 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PotatoChip

This is NOT a cold hiring environment.

I know...my point was in a cold environment do what it takes...it isn't and won't be for a longtime so the job fair thing will probably wither away...until another cold hiring environment.

#337

Duksrule , 02-01-2016 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Albief15

So...let me get this straight....

A dude sucks it up, buys a ticket, hotel, and whatever the NGPA extracts to be part of their job fair. He pays extra for a few extra minutes and guaranteed access with a fast-pass.

His reward is he is **** on and called "unworthy" to be in the line.

I really, really detest job fairs. I cannot say don't go...because you gotta do what you gotta do...but holy cow that is just crass.

One day, these high and mighty recruiters are going to need something from somebody....a doctor, plumber, or handyman. I hope they get treated like the absolute dog**** they treat some of the people who strive to see them.

These pilots have crawled on their belly---burned precious military leave or burned hard earned regional dollars--for literally just minutes with a recruiter. To treat that effort with anything but a flattered "thank you for expressing interest..." is just wrong, IMHO.

I don't have a fix...yet. But the day will come these pay for meetings and paying homage to NGPA, OBAP, or WAI are anachronisms. I look forward to that day. There has to be a better way.

Especially when they are no longer the top of the heap that everyone wants to work at. My guess is that TOTD was an exception to not the rule. I personally know two guys at SW in training and just completed that are waiting on their class dates for mother Delta. Which I also think is a bit shady as this took away a slot for someone who wanted to go to SW and stay but it is dog eat dog in this industry.

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ANGFlight81 , 02-01-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Duksrule

And I know people that had class dates elsewhere and chose to stay at SWA.

...what's your point?

#339

Burton78 , 02-01-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Albief15

Quite frankly, I have to say that I'm somewhat surprised to see such a (dare I say) whiny post coming from someone who reaps profits from the whole "Hiring game" himself. The HR reps at the Job Fairs are looking for people they can hire and put in class as soon as possible. If someone doesn't meet the qualifications to be hired, they are wasting both their time, and the time of the qualified people standing in line behind them that have "crawled on their belly---burned precious military leave or burned hard earned regional dollars--for literally just minutes with a recruiter" AND meet the qualifications.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud your service to the pilot community and endorse your service to pretty much all my friends that are looking to get on with their carrier of choice as I appreciated and respect what you offered, but I think you might be the one that's acting a little "high and mighty" here.

There's no doubt in anyone's mind that Job fairs suck, and I've personally only met one person who has actually benefited from them.

I felt the need to comment because the whole tone of your post seems like a personal vendetta against SWA because they are calling people out for using ECC.

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Bigwing , 02-01-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Burton78

It's all a racket, isn't it. The only ones not profiting are the junior pilots.
From paying for test prep, paying to take the test, paying for a guy to give you an ATP who counts his money before the debrief is even over, paying for a job fair, paying for an application, paying for interview prep...all in the hope of being a captain and making 100K$ of student loans worth it all.