Southwest Issues?
#21
Looks like is was more than 117
#22
I was in line at MDW
With a SWA capt (Allen nice guy) he calle SWA scheduling and they blew him off. He was trying to help out but scheduling was overwhelmed.
#23
Issue: Landing at wrong airport
I keep having people ask me what I thought of Southwest landing at the wrong airport.
Initially my reaction was to be critical. I put some thought into it before I replied however.
Now at AT we always backup our visual approaches with and instrument approach and only once did I go to a runway that did not have an approach in our data base (7R in LAS). Without knowing how SWA does it I could easily see a situation where when cleared the visual at night the combination of visual illusions and proximity to destination could set a crew up for failure.
Many guys at AT will have a fix in for the destination in the FMS as a backup to distance remaining.
I have to give the crew Cudos for stopping on a runway 1000' feet shorter than Key West.
Now I know how conservative our data is. I am sure ACAR Landing performance would have said it was an unlikely stop.
My question is this:
What is taught if anything at SWA on backing up visual approaches?
Fly safe, we can be our own worst enemies
Initially my reaction was to be critical. I put some thought into it before I replied however.
Now at AT we always backup our visual approaches with and instrument approach and only once did I go to a runway that did not have an approach in our data base (7R in LAS). Without knowing how SWA does it I could easily see a situation where when cleared the visual at night the combination of visual illusions and proximity to destination could set a crew up for failure.
Many guys at AT will have a fix in for the destination in the FMS as a backup to distance remaining.
I have to give the crew Cudos for stopping on a runway 1000' feet shorter than Key West.
Now I know how conservative our data is. I am sure ACAR Landing performance would have said it was an unlikely stop.
My question is this:
What is taught if anything at SWA on backing up visual approaches?
Fly safe, we can be our own worst enemies
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#28
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: 7th green
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Somehow, I don't see SWA adopting a lot of ATN procedures. Not that they're not open to change, but you don't turn an aircraft carrier on a dime either.
Frankly, why mess with success? SWA has had its issues, but they remind me of an Alaska Bush Pilot legend Harold Gilliam: "He thrill 'em, chill 'em but no kill 'em Gilliam."
Frankly, why mess with success? SWA has had its issues, but they remind me of an Alaska Bush Pilot legend Harold Gilliam: "He thrill 'em, chill 'em but no kill 'em Gilliam."
#29
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
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Somehow, I don't see SWA adopting a lot of ATN procedures. Not that they're not open to change, but you don't turn an aircraft carrier on a dime either.
Frankly, why mess with success? SWA has had its issues, but they remind me of an Alaska Bush Pilot legend Harold Gilliam: "He thrill 'em, chill 'em but no kill 'em Gilliam."
Frankly, why mess with success? SWA has had its issues, but they remind me of an Alaska Bush Pilot legend Harold Gilliam: "He thrill 'em, chill 'em but no kill 'em Gilliam."
It's scary how much more money they'd make if they just operated more efficiently.
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