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Old 11-01-2013, 06:56 AM
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Ruling just posted.

Arbitrator rejects every aspect of the ALPA argument regarding the B717 sub-lease to Delta.

My personal favorite is from page 46:
Nonetheless, all that evidence shows is that ALPA gambled wrong in the first SLI Agreement when it rejected the terms of the Agreement in the hope of extracting more favorable terms from the Company. When Southwest responded with what ALPA considered a draconian “take it or leave it” offer, ALPA wound up with little leverage to negotiate terms in the second SLI Agreement.
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
Ruling just posted.

Arbitrator rejects every aspect of the ALPA argument regarding the B717 sub-lease to Delta.

My personal favorite is from page 46:
Nonetheless, all that evidence shows is that ALPA gambled wrong in the first SLI Agreement when it rejected the terms of the Agreement in the hope of extracting more favorable terms from the Company. When Southwest responded with what ALPA considered a draconian “take it or leave it” offer, ALPA wound up with little leverage to negotiate terms in the second SLI Agreement.
Where can the entire ruling be found? I have searched but no luck, so far no link on SWAPA site that I can find either.
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Can we get the simple terms?
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So what does that mean in laymans terms?
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The subject wasn't simple enough?

ALPA loses. SWAPA wins. Every ATN CA will be an FO.

Do you need pictures?
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Originally Posted by gloopy
So what does that mean in laymans terms?
"Today SWAPA received an arbitration decision from Arbitrator Joshua Javits on the Dispute Resolution Committee arbitration addressing the B717 complaint from AirTran pilots. We are happy to report that Arbitrator Javits has ruled in SWAPA's favor, determining that the Company's sublease of the B717 aircraft to Delta is not a violation of the SLI Agreement and therefore the AirTran pilots were not denied any rights and are not entitled to a remedy."
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
The subject wasn't simple enough?

ALPA loses. SWAPA wins. Every ATN CA will be an FO.

Do you need pictures?
Not necessarily so - any AirTran Captain that has not transitioned over to SWA in Jan 2015 could bid into a SWA left seat. I doubt all the AirTran pilots are going to make it through Dallas in the next 14 months.
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Not necessarily so - any AirTran Captain that has not transitioned over to SWA in Jan 2015 could bid into a SWA left seat. I doubt all the AirTran pilots are going to make it through Dallas in the next 14 months.
No. They can't. EVERY ATN CA must be a SWA FO before they can bid for SWA CA.

The Transition Bid only has one award now...SWA737 FO.
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On 1 Jan 15 SL-10 becomes null and void so any AT pilot in training or waiting to attend training becomes eligible to bid whatever seat they can hold on the ISL. So the tail-end senior AirTran pilots could finish transition training then immediately enter Captain Upgrade training unless SWA creates a program to combine the two.
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Although it sucks, I can't really say that I disagree with anything in his decision.
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